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Version: 2.8.9
by: VgerAN [More]

Find upgrades, do more damage, win.

Pawn helps you find upgrades for your gear and tell which of two items is better for your spec. Start with built-in advice from Ask Mr. Robot, or customize Pawn's stat weights to have it suggest items based on your favorite class guide or simulator. Pawn can help you decide whether it's better to use the cloak with 500 mastery or the one with 450 crit—whether you're just starting out, or you're an advanced player who plans out gear upgrades and regularly simulates and evaluates performance.

Getting started

If you're new to Pawn, don't worry—Pawn will automatically set itself up to give you advice based on math done by the experts at Ask Mr. Robot (or, on Classic, HawsJon). Just watch for Pawn's green arrows. If you decide you want to go further, there are a lot of ways that you can customize Pawn, by tracking multiple specs at once, importing custom stat weights, and more.

Language support

Pawn now works with all languages on both live/retail and Classic. It's possible that you might run into stats that Pawn doesn't recognize from time to time when playing on non-English clients—if you think that Pawn's not calculating something right, put an item into the Compare tab and see if it lists all of the stats there. If something's missing, let me know which item and which language, and I should be able to get it fixed!

Staying in touch

Become a fan of Vger on Facebook and get updates of new versions and stuff like that. You can also leave questions or comments there if you don't have an account on this site. (I typically respond to questions much more quickly on Facebook or Curse.)

Found a bug?

If you think you might have found a bug, just leave a comment here. In addition to a description of the problem, please make sure to include: (1) the language that you use Pawn and WoW in, (2) whether it's live/retail or Classic, (3) the specific items that don't work as expected, and (4) your class and spec if you're using the built-in (not custom) stat weights. Screenshots are usually very helpful as well.

Incompatible with...

Pawn will not work with Titan Panel Artifact Power or Combat Numbers Separator. Those addons change item tooltips and will cause Pawn to give bad advice. It's also been reported that using Pawn with TradeSkillMaster can cause the game to crash or hang.

Version 2.8.9

Dragonflight: Updated stat weights for all classes and specs.
Dragonflight: Updated Pawn's scale color button to work with the new patch 10.2.5 color picker.

Version 2.8.8

Dragonflight: Removed the "Only show upgrades for my best armor type after level 27" option. After level 27, Pawn will now always stop showing items that are not the right type of armor for your class.
Classic: Fixed a bug where Pawn would suggest armor your character can't wear as upgrades.
Classic: Fixed a bug where Pawn would sometimes suggest socketing Glinting Flame Spessarite when it meant to suggest Sovereign Shadow Draenite. This bug potentially affected any time Glinting Flame Spessarite was suggested (such as in the socketing advisor popup), but didn't affect any other calculations or upgrade suggestions.

Version 2.8.7

Classic: Added support for the Classic trade skill and crafting window: hovering over the item icon in that window should now work the same as if the item were already in your bags.

Version 2.8.6

Dragonflight: More new stat weight updates, updated for patch 10.2.0.

Version 2.8.5

Dragonflight: New stat weights have been included for all classes and specs, including all evoker specs, based on the latest Ask Mr. Robot raid simulation data.

Version 2.8.4

To keep things responsive, especially on the slower Classic versions of the game, Pawn has a new system that caps how much processing power it will allow bag addons to use when calculating which items get green upgrade arrows. Roughly speaking, if the game runs at 60 FPS for you, Pawn will block bag addons from reducing that by more than 2 FPS. (This change doesn't affect you if you aren't using a custom bag addon.)

Version 2.8.3

Wrath Classic: The new gems for Content Phase 3 (Cardinal Ruby, etc.) will now show up in recommendations, and will be taken into account when determining the value of sockets on high-level gear.

Version 2.8.2

Dragonflight: Dragonflight 10.1.0 has a game bug that was causing Pawn to show the wrong information on "currently equipped" tooltips. That bug is fixed in Dragonflight 10.1.5. Pawn will stop annotating "currently equipped" tooltips until 10.1.5 launches.
Dragonflight: Added support for the 10.1.5 PTR.
Dragonflight: Added support for Augmentation Evokers. If you're using Pawn in Automatic mode (the default), you don't need to do anything extra. If you're using Pawn in Manual mode, you'll need to import your own Augmentation scale or use (shift-click) the one that comes with Pawn. (Stat weights for Augmentation aren't available yet so it's a placeholder in this version of Pawn.)

Version 2.8.1

Dragonflight: Fixed a problem that could occur when showing Pawn's version number on 10.1.0.

Version 2.8.0

Updated for Dragonflight: Embers of Neltharion (10.1.0).
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Re: Re: Re: JC Ring bug?

Originally Posted by Carnacki
Sorry, I just realised I haven't got notifications turned on for comments so I didn't see your response until I saw you'd updated Pawn with the fix for this issue.
Let me know if it helps! Or doesn't!
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Re: Re: JC Ring bug?

Originally Posted by VgerAN
Hi! Thanks for the report; that does sound like a problem introduced by the new Dragonflight crafting stuff. If you can, could you turn on Pawn's "show item IDs" option and give me the whole series of numbers that appear on that ring's tooltip (12345:0:0:123:45:6, etc.)? I'll see if I can find a Band of New Beginnings on the AH if not. Once I have that, I should be able to figure out what's going on.
Sorry, I just realised I haven't got notifications turned on for comments so I didn't see your response until I saw you'd updated Pawn with the fix for this issue.
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Re: JC Ring bug?

Originally Posted by Carnacki
I was comparing a JC ring (Band of New Beginnings) and it was scored really low. When I looked closer I noticed it's only scoring one stat (mastery) the other stat (crit) is being completely ignored. When you hover over the ring in Pawn the tooltip shows +259 Mastery, +259 Random stat.

This is in DF 10.0.2 with Pawn 2.7.13, English client and on my hunter (BM scale). From what I could see every different scale ignores the second stat.
Hi! Thanks for the report; that does sound like a problem introduced by the new Dragonflight crafting stuff. If you can, could you turn on Pawn's "show item IDs" option and give me the whole series of numbers that appear on that ring's tooltip (12345:0:0:123:45:6, etc.)? I'll see if I can find a Band of New Beginnings on the AH if not. Once I have that, I should be able to figure out what's going on.
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JC Ring bug?

I was comparing a JC ring (Band of New Beginnings) and it was scored really low. When I looked closer I noticed it's only scoring one stat (mastery) the other stat (crit) is being completely ignored. When you hover over the ring in Pawn the tooltip shows +259 Mastery, +259 Random stat.

This is in DF 10.0.2 with Pawn 2.7.13, English client and on my hunter (BM scale). From what I could see every different scale ignores the second stat.
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Re: Re: Re: Hate to be that guy ..

Thanks; I was hoping that would be/become the case!

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Originally Posted by VgerAN
Hey! I don't have beta access so I haven't been able to start, but I expect that I'll at least make sure that it works and get the new stats in there. I'm hoping that I can dig up the old socket bonus code so I don't have to rebuild that stuff too.

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Is a BC Classic version something in our future?
Good news.

If it helps you any, the Classic PTR is running the same client version as the BC Classic beta since last week.
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Re: Re: Hate to be that guy ..

Originally Posted by VgerAN
Hey! I don't have beta access so I haven't been able to start, but I expect that I'll at least make sure that it works and get the new stats in there. I'm hoping that I can dig up the old socket bonus code so I don't have to rebuild that stuff too.

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Is a BC Classic version something in our future?
Good news.

If it helps you any, the Classic PTR is running the same client version as the BC Classic beta since last week.
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Re: Hate to be that guy ..

Hey! I don't have beta access so I haven't been able to start, but I expect that I'll at least make sure that it works and get the new stats in there. I'm hoping that I can dig up the old socket bonus code so I don't have to rebuild that stuff too.

Originally Posted by Dridzt
Is a BC Classic version something in our future?
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Hate to be that guy ..

Is a BC Classic version something in our future?
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Re: Pawn suggesting Agility only sword for Monk Healspec

Hmmm, it seems reasonable to me: none of those weapons are that good for healing, so the best one out of those three for your healing spec is one with decent secondary stats and a socket. Right now Pawn is just comparing the new sword with the ones you have equipped.

1) If you want to change Pawn to try to track your best items for each spec and show you upgrades even over items you don't have equipped, you can choose the "Track for each scale (advanced)" option. It works best if you keep gear for your different specs in equipment sets, but it'll try to remember what you have no matter what.

2) If you want to hide scales from your tooltips (like the built-in Mistweaver scale, since you're using a custom one now), just shift-click the scale in the list in Pawn. (Or, select it, and then uncheck "show this scale in tooltips" on the Scales tab.)



Originally Posted by Barleduq
So I followed instructions on Raidbots and put the thing from it into Pawn. (forgive my language, I'm having a hard word day.) Now it tells me when things are upgrades for any of my specs, which is fine. But this is not right. This item doesn't have any intellect on it. In the screenshot, I'm hovering over it, and have my other two weapons highlighted.

https://imgur.com/a/8H8xDID

Did I do something wrong?
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Pawn suggesting Agility only sword for Monk Healspec

So I followed instructions on Raidbots and put the thing from it into Pawn. (forgive my language, I'm having a hard word day.) Now it tells me when things are upgrades for any of my specs, which is fine. But this is not right. This item doesn't have any intellect on it. In the screenshot, I'm hovering over it, and have my other two weapons highlighted.

https://imgur.com/a/8H8xDID

Did I do something wrong?
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Hi! Yeah, that's something that I definitely would like Pawn to be smarter about. Right now there unfortunately isn't a workaround other than just ignoring the false "upgrade" notices.

It's always been a problem in some fashion, but until a few years ago it was pretty much just limited to garbage green rings that you wouldn't use for long anyway, so I never got around to it. Now that items can randomly drop with sockets or bonus stats or higher item levels, it's a problem that can affect everyone even at max level.
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Hi there!

Is it possible for Pawn to detect that I'm already wearing a unique-equipped ring that I have another copy of in my bags? The one I'm wearing has a socket, is the same ilevel, with the same stats. Pawn's insisting that the one in my bags is a 98% upgrade. I presume because it thinks the one in my bag is better than the *other* one I'm wearing. But I can't equip it.

Here is an album with two screenshots: first one shows the tooltip for the Smuggler's Cove ring in my bag, second one shows the Smuggler's Cove ring I have equipped.

I'll note that the one I'm wearing is also my lowest ilvl item,

http://imgur.com/a/i3Jp50d

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Originally Posted by VgerAN
(followed up on Facebook—looks like that was it)
Thanks for posting this here - I like to know the results of things like this, and I don't use facebook, so knowing it was resolved (even if I didn't see it) is good enough!

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(followed up on Facebook—looks like that was it)
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Hey—are you using the Zygor addon? Pawn doesn't have a button like that, but I remember getting the same question a while back, and I don't remember for sure which addon it was.
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