The new StarTrek movie
 

Has both my inner and my outer geek very happy!

Not even a trekky and that movie was good.

Yeah very good movie, planning on seeing it again thursday!

Is it actually good? I'm a Star Trek fan and have yet to see it but with the track record of movies (not just Star Trek) being fairly bad in the last few years I am little hesitant to spend $10.50 per ticket to see it.


But it has BLOWN away not only box office records it has blown away every other Star Trek movie (all 11 of them) Betting the best Star Trek movie, First Contact, by $42 million dollars. (Source)

A group of friends, the boyfriend, and I piled over our place and had a cookout, then went to go see it. Was a good day.

I enjoyed this movie more than any other movie I've seen in a while. At certain points I was cheering, laughing, crying ...

Great movie. Definitely worth the $20 the boyfriend and I spent at the theatre.

Great movie.

Was an fantastic film, the baddie was a bit iffy though.

One word. Awesome!

I cannot remember the last time I went to the theatre, but I guess I gotta go see this. I've heard nothing but good from it, except from my srsbizness trekky geek friends (who go to conventions wearing tailored craptastic outfits costing $250+). Every normal person I know (mostly still geeks, just normal geeks) though, has given it extremely high praise.

I went with my mom and my daughter. We are all Trekkies, of three different generations. We all loved it. :)

The movie left me with mixed feelings. Don't get me wrong. I'm a die hard fan myself (although not the convention type :p), I just think that there was so much potential and so many things could have been handled way better, than just throwing together another "time travel" storyline which pretty much invalidates everything we know about the franchise. Time travel has been beaten to death so much, in so many Sci-fi movies and series over the years, it's not even funny anymore. Moreover, it is highly susceptible to plot holes and spawns debates and arguments about things that cannot really be explained scientifically or even rationally. Simply put, huge "reset" buttons are not fun or original anymore.

Nero was a "cheesy" villain anyway you look at it. I believe that they tried to take advantage of Shinzon's popularity and attitude in the last TNG movie, yet the feeling is not the same. The rest of the actors try very hard (lots of lines used from the original series) but imho they have some really big shoes to fill in. The thing to remember is that the Trek movies were also about characters, something that it was strongly emphasized in the more recent series. Character development is certainly not the strongest point of this prequel.

The movie was impressive in terms of special effects and action which was somewhat predictable since it's usually a huge selling factor. All in all a very good effort but still, in my eyes, there was something missing from the movie, there was something "out of place" that I can't really define 100%. If I had to choose between this prequel and another TNG movie, I believe I would go for the later.

Haven't seen it yet but on thing that is somewhat turning me away is the fact it takes place in the past ..

Not that going to the "beginnings" is a bad idea but because of the fact that the special effects are better now.

The same thing happened to me with Star Wars. I love the original 3 (Episodes 4, 5 and 6) but the 3 newer ones (Episodes 1,2 and 3) although have great storylines and are good movies just don't fit the series for me. I just find it hard to watch a movie that takes place in a time where "technology" was inferior but LOOKS better than it probably should.

I don't know .. I'll prolly go see it this weekend ..

(Ans I have been to one convention .. was a Sci-Fi / Fantasy convention so it was a lot more than Star Trek. :)

The thing is though, if you watch the Star War films backwards (:p), or rather...in the proper order they are meant to be viewed, they have a great sense of continuity and amazing character development.

That I will not disagree with .. it's more or less a visual thing for me.

I'm just strange like that :D

I must say i loved the movie. Karl Urban in my opinion was the best translation of the characters as McCoy. He looked and sounded so much like the original it was almost creepy =P

And while i agree the time-travel thing has been done to death this was certainly an interesting take on it. Seeing it from the other side of it so to speak. It also allowed the script a certain amount of flexibility it might not have otherwise had. I think the character development was interesting in that you see the sides of some of the characters that some (not all) fans of the original content would like to see. Im not a purist of the original series by any means so i found the way the movie was done a nifty little spin on the universe.

My hardcore trekkie friends were in a love/hate relationship with it so i expect some of the ultra-die hard fans will be disappointed. All in all i enjoyed it. If you take it as just a movie its definitely entertaining. If you go to compare it to the original series and the following movies your bound to find things you dont like.

I am reminded of a conversation I had with some guy while standing in line for Wrath of Khan (imo the best Trek movie to date).

Me: I hear that Spock is supposed to die at the end of this movie.

Guy: Man, I hope not... How will they explain it in the TV series if he does?

/add apropriate wah,wha,wha sound effects as needed

I was very impressed with it. ILM has outdone themselves. I've seen it 3 times now and I must say that even now it's still not dull to me and I would see it again (need to find a sucker to take me to the imax one). I have always been a fan and the last 2 Trek movies (Insurrection and Nemesis) were just so bad that i didn't have much hopes for this one. But really, despite the timeline killer it was fantastic.

I think this is one of the best Star Trek movies (with the Wrath of Kahn).
I've been watching almost every episode and I found this movie very good for both people who don't know Star Trek and the Trekkies who can find some interesting things (like when Kirk said that he cheated in the Kobayashi Maru in one of the movies, now we discover what he did)

It sounds like there is some relationship with harcoreness and the enjoyment of the movie.

Luckily, I haven't seen any of the other movies, nor did I watch the series, so my judgement wasn't affected by how it compared to the other Star Trek movies/series, just by how it compared to other movies in general.

However, I have enough knowledge to appreciate commonalities (One liners, Leonard Nemoy, etc.)

Oh and btw.. lol Tyler Perry?

I'll wait for it to come out on DVD.

As a lifetime Star Trek fan, I absolutely LOVED the movie.

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Fascinating how they destroyed a key planet that appears in just about every Star Trek series or movie that happens chronologically after this movie, thus invalidating all existing Star Trek canon except, possibly, the Enterprise (Jonathan Archer) series. I wonder if they're going to carry on with the universe rebooted and move on from here, or if the 2011 sequel JJ Abrams is already signed on for will set things right again.

I VERY rarely ever go to the movies, I too prefer to wait for dvd.BUT , being a trekky....I went, and was awed.The sound was awesome...halfway up the row was amazing! I highly recommend the experience. I will still buy it on dvd too.....and I REALLY hope there will be more sequels because events need to be corrected ;)

Personally im hoping they dont correct anything. Id like to see how far they can take this new time line. Trying to 'correct' what was done in this will be somewhat limiting. It more or less forces another time travel based story which has, as stated above, been done to death.

As it stands there is more flexibility for creativity. If done in the fashion this movie was done i expect some excellent films while keeping the spirit of the original stories.

If its done as well as this one its bound to be a good flick in either case. :D

I'd heard there was some time chicanery in the movie and went in with a very wary attitude because it is very overdone, especially in Trek. As the credits rolled I was like "You mean they're not gonna... Oh! Well done!" They did it exactly right, it was the perfect use of it. And I am a bigtime trekkie (I even used to do the convention thing back in the day.)

Tristan, I'm with you. However I felt that the movie was over tooooo quickly. About the time I felt it was at the 1/2 way point I realized there was only about 10-15 mins left.

Well I just came back from seeing this.

I must say it was MUCH better than I ever imagined.

Although there are some "flaws" it was an incredibly well done story.

A MUST see for every Star Trek fan .. It won't disappoint ya.

So...anyone else remember Capt Pike?

Yes, from the original Pilot episode. Wasn't the character also supposed to appear in the new movie?

He does indeed.

Ahhhhh.... Saw Star Trek this afternoon and Serenity is on SciFi channel right now. Life just doesn't get better than this. :)

Regarding Star Trek... It outshines WoK as my personal favorite already, and that is reeeeallly saying something. Here are some of the reasons I loved it so much;

* Put tears in my eyes one minute, and had me laughing my ass off the next.

* Frequent call-backs to TOS and some of the movies. "I have been and always shall be your friend."

* NIMOY! He really doesn't look bad for a Vulcan on the high side of 300!

* Sylar is Spock! I'm a huge Heroes fan and didn't realize it was the same actor till I saw him on the big screen. He does a fantastic job of portraying a character torn between what is logical and what is emotional.

* I got a real sense of "history in the making" from the movie, and then "history in the re-making", which I thought was a great way to re-start the series.


I hope that the big studios continue to "reboot" some of the movie series which have become very stale. Batman was a great decision. James Bond was a great decision. Star Trek is a great decision.

Terminator: Salvation here I come!!!

I loved that they basically reset the cannon. It was so freaking complicated there wasn't much room for much else. Now they can make movies and do whatever the hell they want.

Every person I know that has seen it Trekker and non Trekker alike has LOVED this movie. I kind of hope this opens up room for a new series eventually. I miss having Star Trek on TV.

Yeah .. I second that request for a new TV series .. I miss it too .. that and Quantum Leap .. they need to redo that too :D

I was surprised at the high quality of the new Star Trek movie. However, being an astrophysics nerd I spent a good 2/3rds of the movie cringing in my seat muttering things like, "noo... not possible... u can't... *cringe* friggin... arrrg... red... *shudder* please just... physics... astro... not sideways... *gasp* it would be CRUSHED..." and variations of these. I did however enjoy the acting, the script and the vulcan nerve pinches which overcame my rational rejection at the impossibilities within the film.

To quote a classic character from a different sci-fi movie series; "You must unlearn what you have learned!" :D

i havent been to see it yet but im looking forward to a day off work when i can manage it :D my dad called me erlier today.. he and his wife went to see it in an imax theater.. he said it was AMAZING...

we have beoth been long time trekkie.. him with the TOS and me with ther newer TNG and Voyager (never really got into DS9)

anyways

WHERE DO YOU GET THOSE?????

Great movie. I was really impressed with the actor who played Kirk. I liked the job he did with giving Kirk that "Not ****y, just really confidence" type of attitude. Only thing I disliked was that Kirk got his ass handed to him several times! :p

Too bad I won't get to see this movie until it comes out on DVD since they dub everything here in Italy! Ugh, can't you morons (the Italians) leave anything TV or movie-wise alone? When I lived in Greece they subtitled the dialog in Greek however the original language track was intact.

I am a long time Trekkie so I am looking forward to seeing this movie. I wonder if I can scrounge up a cheap plane ticket to the UK...

CollegeHumor's Star Trek vs. Star Wars
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892

Pretty good!

I had only a couple of complaints about the movie, and it was very very minor.

1) Since even in Enterprise they had Phase pistols, why were their weapons shooting bolts?

2) Since when did Federation Starships have machine gun phaser things on their hulls?

But even then I could just chalk it off to "Alternate time line, NAHH!!!" so it was all good. Best movie of the year imo.

You gotta remember, the timeline was really changed right at the beginning of the movie when Kirk's father was killed. And I liked the machine gun phaser things!:D

I addressed that in my post.

And who said that I didn't like the laser gun machine phaser things? I was making pewpew noises whenever they fired! (Much to the amusement and annoyance of my friends :D)

what gets me... is if they make more Star Trek movies... how are they going to deal with how so much changed...

and i have to say... the actor for Spock (just brain farted and forgot his name) was better than i expected...

oh oh oh.. and the guy that played Bones.. absolutely perfect!!!!!

Yeah, Spock is played by the same guy who plays Sylar in my favorite TV show, Heroes. But I can't for the life of me remember his name either. McCoy was dead on, with the voice, inflections and the attitude. As far as dealing with the alternate time-line, that's kind of the point I think. This way they can come up with alternate story lines, and still be reflective of what's come before... after... whatever, you know what I mean :o

Zachary Quinto.

Thank you!

That's why I think that this use of the time travel angle was great. It was executed with perfect harmony with the ST multiverse, maybe even intentionally. Way back in Mirror, Mirror, Spock describes how there are an infinity of parallel universes with an infinity of the different possible timelines. Now we look at Nero who comes back and changes the timeline in "this" universe (spawning off a new infinity of timelines from the moment of entry out of the black hole, of course). Somewhere in all the infinities of universes one will still be, or got changed to be, or got spawned off to be, the timeline as told by what has come before so all of that canon is still preserved -- just in a universe down the street as it were.

The net effect is that Nero caused the universes to shift so that our camera into Star Trek is now simply filming a different one. They can keep whatever elements of canon they like, while introducing new elements and stories as they care to keep running with it.

i agree that it was beautifly done and has some merit for future productions and the like...

still.. the whole time travel and **** stuff up IS kinda cliche <.< but thats a personal preference :D

over all.. GREAT movie!

Suddenly something's bothering me
 

Saw it again this weekend. First movie I've seen twice in theatres in.. like .. 10 years.

Caught 2 things:
- Red shirt died in the space jump. Completely missed that. RED SHIRT DIES. Classic.
- Where the hell are the 29th century temporal prime directive people to stop all this?

I still haven't seen it, and now, I think I'll just wait it out for DVD. I should know better than to keep reading this thread, but I'm a glutton for punishment I guess.:o

no wai!



(/sigh... too short)

I've gone to movies in order to see couple of great disappointments this year...
Then I went and watched this with my wife.

Holy balls, movie can't get any better that this! Even wife loved it, and we both ain't "fanbois" :D

Both the Kepler and Enterprise had both types of weapons, the traditional phasers and these new (old) bolt type weapons. As for the hand phasers, who knows. But the effect of them switching from stun to kill was cool - you notice it best after Kirk stuns that Romulan.

I believe the first Enterprise has those pew pew lasers before they created / mounted phase cannons on it. I didn't follow Enterprise too closely, I hated that Vulcan chick with a passion. I would have to dig out the tech books (yes, they wrote and I own Trek tech books), but I don't think the phaser strips were around until TNG.

Some of the science made me cringe, but it's Star Trek, what else is new? It's already notorious for that sort of thing :P. I love how the teleporter seems to become more powerful the content they make. Classic move at the speed of plot Trek, almost to the point of homage since it's one of the biggest complaints I've seen. I thought it was actually in a TNG episode where they finally figured out how to warp to a ship in warp, and only then while matching warp speeds.

And yes, red shirt dies. Woot!

The Shizznit
 

I saw it a second time as well and it was just as good for me.Also was my first time in forever seeing a movie twice at the theater.

Really, you didn't catch that the first time? I've seen the movie twice, and the first time I saw it, as soon as the red shirt started acting reckless on the jump I started pulling on my bf's arm and yell/whispering to him "The red shirt is going to die! He's gonna die!" And sure enough, he did. :-)

I wasn't trained on it enough, I think. I've always been more of a Next Gen / Voyager guy, and the red shirts were worn by command officers in those series..

I'm a Trekker not a trekie but I did manage to see this movie and I must say It had good and bad IMO.

I'm so much of a Trekker that I have $10,000 of Star Trek collectables, including in invitation to the Hollywood Premier of the last episode of The Next gen, but on to my review of the movie:

This film took too much past canon and threw it out the window, this film left me asking what? who? when? Now before I get flamed I realize the time paradox and such, but had it happened it would have changed much of the past Trek that we knew. So since Capt Pike was confined to the wheelchair before The Menegerie I guess that never happened?

The actor I thought did a superb job, I could actually picture each person playing their counterparts later in life. Good job actors. I think the Videography was way too jumpy during fight scenes and Kirk was not that "technical" of a fighter as they made him in this one.

The idea of Red Matter? Come on . . . but hey we do have Warp Transport (which evidently Scotty forgot later in life).

Overall I would say a great film for the Trek Universe and give it an 8 out of 10. Generations was my favorite . . . but did anyne hear Nimoy quoted as saying he is slated for one more "Trek"? Is this forshadow of another movie? I'm hoping that this film sparks Nimoy into directing another film. I would like to see a movie (if we're gonna thow time travel in everytime we wanna do something "non-canon") that brings all four Captains ("Enterprise" doesn't count) to battle an almost completely Borg-assimilated delta Quadrant. Kirk is like "what the Hell?" Picard is like "Oh No" Janeway is "Yeah Whatever" and Sisko is "I wanna go to DS9" . . .lol

but as I said overall a great film and I'm happy they made it.

He was the one that Nero captured and you see at the end of the film in the wheelchair when Kirk get's the Enterprise

I loved the move about the farmboy who heads off to space to fight an evil that can destroy a planet with a even bigger spaceship. You know TrekWars. :eek:

I think Axl was referring to the two part episode of TOS called "The Menagerie". Wow, my inner geek is really starting to wake up now.:D

yeah axl had it, but Torhal said

and I was letting him know which character he is in the film.