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saanlem 06-16-08 10:26 PM

Sepioth, I doubt everyone is aware that for Magelo to give what the Blizzard Armory produces, one has to be a Premium member of Magelo, ie., pay a monthly subscription to Magelo.
The "bot" would be similar to those that Curse Gaming and others have.

gromlv 06-17-08 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saanlem (Post 93814)
Sepioth, I doubt everyone is aware that for Magelo to give what the Blizzard Armory produces, one has to be a Premium member of Magelo, ie., pay a monthly subscription to Magelo.
The "bot" would be similar to those that Curse Gaming and others have.

You mister,just killed my joy :(
I was rly looking forward to check this thing out,hell,i even got it instaled alrdy,all what iam waiting for,is a word from blizzard about this soft.
Naw that u said,that iam forced to PAY for a PROFILER,in order to get all my details of my char on that thing,my hands goes down.

sad tbh,realy wold of loved to use a 3D profiler.
As long as the thing iam paying for,does not offer me something unique that wold worth paying for,iam staying awai.

Petrah 06-17-08 02:20 AM

There's nothing preventing you from using the free version when it comes out of beta testing.

Petrah 06-17-08 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saanlem (Post 93814)
Sepioth, I doubt everyone is aware that for Magelo to give what the Blizzard Armory produces, one has to be a Premium member of Magelo, ie., pay a monthly subscription to Magelo.

I doubt everyone is aware that Magelo, once out of beta testing, will produce much much much much much more than the Armory ever will. ;)

In fact, I think Bliz should hire Jelan to fix their armory.

Goatus 06-18-08 07:50 PM

This question may sound silly, but wouldn't Blizzard aproval to this program create dangerous precedence for bot/cheat developers to use?

If you let one program to read WoW memory legaly, then you practicaly say it's FFA and anyone can do it. And how much more you need to create bot? Just read client memory send few keystrokes and thats all.

Petrah 06-18-08 08:54 PM

Magelo has been around, serving the EQ gaming community, for 7 years now. Whatever bot thingies are gonna be made more than likely already have been made.

dafire 06-19-08 09:42 AM

Blizzard will never allow Magelo or any Software that get's information directly from RAM while wow is running.

Probably they don't mind when you upload database files or write stuff into saved variables, because it's not realtime.

They are very eager on what they let out of the client in realtime. That's why you can't change the information on the G15 display. That's why combat log/chat log is bufferd and wrote to disk delayed. And Magelo breaks that rule.

Petrah 06-19-08 12:51 PM

I don't get this whole getting information from RAM thing. Is this my RAM we're talking about, or some other RAM belonging specifically to Blizzard? I don't need for the game to remain open in order to Sync my toons using Magelo.

I will not debate weather or not the software is illegal to use with WoW. That and what the terms state is no longer an issue. I already know that I shouldn't use it right now, and I do not use it. I do use it with another game though.

My only interest is weather or not they are going to tell us if we can use it (anyone other than an official Bliz employee stating otherwise is is doing so based on pure speculation only).... since they are indeed investigating it, have not locked Jelan's thread advertising it on the official WoW forums, have not banned anyone over it, and have not forced WoWWiki (an official fan site supported by Blizzard) to stop advertising it in their ad banner on the top of their site.

Evolution85 06-19-08 02:04 PM

What does this program do that the Armory, Warcrafter, Be Imba, or RPG Profiler cant????

With all the add ons, spreadsheets, WWS, and everything else available why in the world do we need another?

Arabeth 06-19-08 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Silenia (Post 93974)
I don't get this whole getting information from RAM thing. Is this my RAM we're talking about, or some other RAM belonging specifically to Blizzard?

Yes it's your RAM; it's just that the data within it is not. It's copyright Blizzard. Which you know already, of course. But there will be a lot more data in there about the game that isn't just your combat stats or what a you happen to be wearing today.

It's reasonable to have data written to disk because it can be tightly controlled by the code that produces it but having software capable of accessing in realtime, directly from main memory and Blizzard start to lose control and potentially get ripped off. Or you do!! So they don't like it!

Petrah 06-19-08 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Arabeth (Post 93982)
Yes it's your RAM; it's just that the data within it is not. It's copyright Blizzard. Which you know already, of course. But there will be a lot more data in there about the game that isn't just your combat stats or what a you happen to be wearing today.

It's reasonable to have data written to disk because it can be tightly controlled by the code that produces it but having software capable of accessing in realtime, directly from main memory and Blizzard start to lose control and potentially get ripped off. Or you do!! So they don't like it!

Thank you, Arabeth! I have a better understanding about this now and how it works.

Petrah 06-19-08 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolution85 (Post 93981)
What does this program do that the Armory, Warcrafter, Be Imba, or RPG Profiler cant????

With all the add ons, spreadsheets, WWS, and everything else available why in the world do we need another?

You cannot really see everything that Magelo Sync can do just yet because it's still in Beta for WoW. However, if you pop over to the EverQuest side of the site, you'll see. Everything there will also be available for the WoW side.

There's so much that Magelo offeres, and I do not think I could possibly cover it all in a post. The only thing I can say is it puts all the others to shame. I remember the first time I used it for EverQuest.. I just sat there going :eek: (omg, wow!).

I'll let you see two of my EQ Magelo profiles so you can click on all the gear, buttons and doodads you see:

http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1304692
Notice the clickable icons on the right edge, and the tabs on the bottom. Lets say that I wanted to apply to a high end raiding guild. I add my profile link to my application and they can view it. They'll see what gear I have, my current stats (which are broken down in SOOO many ways for you to see) and if I need to work on anything. They'll see exactly where I am in my progression (keys I have already, what zones I am flagged for and quests I have completed to get there). They'll see everything there is to see, or what I choose to show or hide via my options panel. They also see how many AA (Alternate Advancements, same as Talent points) I have and what ones I am missing. I also have access, in my options, to check all my spells and see what ones, if any, I am missing.

http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1364844
This is one of my little alts. If you look up on the top right of the display box you'll see a tiny icon. Click that and you'll see two links called test and test2. These are what is called alternate profiles. I can edit those and add gear, augments on the gear, or weapons. This gives me the ability to know what gear will benefit me the most so I will know what to set my goals for. (You can see which ones I've changed as they have a yellowish tinted background on them). For each alternate profile, if you look up top where my name and guild name is at, under it, it states that it's an alternate profile so that I can't deceive people by stating I have that gear already.

There is also a ranking system for those who wish to allow their profiles to be ranked. (Gawd, that one guy has 24k hit points unbuffed... damn lol).

There is also a guild tool, but I haven't played with it that much. There's an items database, spells database, zone database, and NPC database. Probably more stuff and I just can't remember what it is at the moment.

Shiny <3 06-27-08 01:08 PM

basically its just prettier and shows your inventory, along with custom backgrounds and adding music thats about it i think.

saanlem 06-28-08 11:42 AM

and you have to pay Magelo for it.
Enough said.

Petrah 06-29-08 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by saanlem (Post 94586)
and you have to pay Magelo for it.
Enough said.

Oh yes, everything that others work their butts off for should be 100% free of charge. Pfft... who ever heard of actually paying someone for exceptional service and an outstanding piece of software!!

Cairenn 06-29-08 12:27 AM

Okay, I think this thread has pretty well run its course. If/when I hear back from Blizz, I'll post.


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