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Kreelor 02-02-15 07:29 PM

Rythal, what's going on?
 
I've waited a month (quietly), watching the forum posts during that time, and I've seen no comments at all from you about what's going on. At least, I've seen nothing communicative about progress or plans from you.

* Are you still in the States or wherever?
* Are you in Europe now?
* If not, are you still planning to go there?
* When might you return to the States, and/or activity within the forums?
* Are you still "reviewing" everything? That has been a very long time now since you said that.
* If you have completed "reviewing," what have you determined?
* Have you done anything (yourself) with the reported/corrected issues with Carbonite?

From what I can gather from looking at the GitHub, other people have helped you complete a number of issues. Those fixed issues (in GitHub) have not been approved nor incorporated into the "Live" version. There appears to be only -one- issue which was assigned to you, and that one is now 28 days old. And, it has had no comments since then. Are you working on only one issue? What about the rest of the numerous issues which still exist?

I'm simply asking again... what is going on? Why can't we be informed of an up-to-date status on a regular basis?

I may be mistaken, but if you're in Europe, I thought the Internet existed there, too? :D

If you are on vacation there, I don't mean to intrude by asking you to do any work on Carbonite. But, (if you aren't there), I'm sure we'd like to hear from you. It will be appreciated. Apparently, the other folks who have worked so very hard and diligently in helping you (without responses from you) are at a complete stand-still -- (they can't do anything without your participation!), since you are the only one who is making decisions for everyone else.

Rythal, if it's not too much trouble, please give us a COMPLETE, itemized overview of what is happening and what is next in line to be handled, and where you are now in the code issues.

This Carbonite forum is nearly dead. The addon seems to be forgotten by you. You may be working on it fervently, but we have no idea unless you let us know something. It can't be that time consuming for you to do so, unless you are in Italy in a gondola, being rowed through the canals of Venice with the one you love! We all hope that our contributions helped you to enjoy that experience. :D

Sincerely.

Dridzt 02-02-15 07:57 PM

I don't know what's your day job but you have a splendid future ahead as a slavedriver.

Rythal 02-02-15 11:59 PM

I'm not sure which continent you live on that 2 weeks is a month.. I made a post in the dev section detailing exactly what your looking for, what needs to be done currently / handled.

This post was made Jan 17th an hour before I left, and was also the same time I stopped being active and had made it quite clear I would not be around or available until I returned. I checked the forums a couple times while I was gone, answered some posts infrequently, but I lived mostly up to my word and was unavailable.

I returned 3 days ago, and have been in bed with the flu since then and going right back there now.

I have looked over the commits to the github, both versions master and dev and while there has been about 40 commits, there is 1 or 2 things I need to check for myself before I consider another live release.

What have I been doing code wise? nothing, I updated git and released a live version just before I left. I stated I was doing nothing and would be unavailable, and I left a listing of everything I knew needed to be looked into.

10leej 02-03-15 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rythal (Post 305995)
I'm not sure which continent you live on that 2 weeks is a month.. I made a post in the dev section detailing exactly what your looking for, what needs to be done currently / handled.

This post was made Jan 17th an hour before I left, and was also the same time I stopped being active and had made it quite clear I would not be around or available until I returned. I checked the forums a couple times while I was gone, answered some posts infrequently, but I lived mostly up to my word and was unavailable.

I returned 3 days ago, and have been in bed with the flu since then and going right back there now.

I have looked over the commits to the github, both versions master and dev and while there has been about 40 commits, there is 1 or 2 things I need to check for myself before I consider another live release.

What have I been doing code wise? nothing, I updated git and released a live version just before I left. I stated I was doing nothing and would be unavailable, and I left a listing of everything I knew needed to be looked into.

/responded

atl77 02-03-15 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rythal (Post 305995)
I returned 3 days ago, and have been in bed with the flu since then and going right back there now.

Get well soon, Rythal!

Svegan 02-03-15 07:35 AM

Hope you get to feeling better Rythal.

Greystar 03-01-15 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rythal (Post 305995)
I'm not sure which continent you live on that 2 weeks is a month.. I made a post in the dev section detailing exactly what your looking for, what needs to be done currently / handled.

This post was made Jan 17th an hour before I left, and was also the same time I stopped being active and had made it quite clear I would not be around or available until I returned. I checked the forums a couple times while I was gone, answered some posts infrequently, but I lived mostly up to my word and was unavailable.

I returned 3 days ago, and have been in bed with the flu since then and going right back there now.

I have looked over the commits to the github, both versions master and dev and while there has been about 40 commits, there is 1 or 2 things I need to check for myself before I consider another live release.

What have I been doing code wise? nothing, I updated git and released a live version just before I left. I stated I was doing nothing and would be unavailable, and I left a listing of everything I knew needed to be looked into.

At the moment I kinda know what you are going through, although I got out of the coding community almost all together. Last Tuesday I got some news from my doctors (and the hospital) that said I could possibly have Cancer at 41 that is pretty bad news, they sent my results off to a specialist and I'm hoping to hear something this Tuesday as it'll have been a week. Hope you get well soon.

Svegan 03-01-15 08:28 AM

@Greystar, I hope and pray that the news from your doctor is good.

mjumnito 03-02-15 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svegan (Post 307110)
@Greystar, I hope and pray that the news from your doctor is good.

I just wanted to second this.

Petrah 03-03-15 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjumnito (Post 307161)
I just wanted to second this.

+3


I hope everything works out for you, and that you have a good strong support system of loving people around you.

SteelTheory 03-08-15 11:58 AM

Don't give the guy too much grief.
He doesn't work for you, nor does he owe us.
He makes something very cool, that we like a lot.
I'm quietly anticipating the next stable release. ...patiently-ish.

Greystar 03-12-15 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svegan (Post 307110)
@Greystar, I hope and pray that the news from your doctor is good.

Well good is relative, but it's not cancer, thanks for the support though from everyone who commented. I also hope Rythal is doing better as well.

Kreelor 03-13-15 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greystar (Post 307491)
Well good is relative, but it's not cancer, thanks for the support though from everyone who commented. I also hope Rythal is doing better as well.

That is wonderful news! It could have gone the other way; thank God it didn't!

Petrah 03-13-15 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greystar (Post 307491)
Well good is relative, but it's not cancer, thanks for the support though from everyone who commented. I also hope Rythal is doing better as well.

Awesome news!!

jktz122 03-13-15 03:37 PM

havent played in a long time
 
but when i did carbonite was one of the main add ons ive used .. i'm curious if carbonite is still being updated for the current wow version 6.1 because so far its one of the few add ons i used and loved but still isnt updated .. if its not being updated can someone reccomend something similar that is?.. sorry to bother people here but i dont often read forums

jeffy162 03-13-15 04:11 PM

Carbonite has been updated on January 15, 2015, which means it'll still work in WoW 6.1, you'll just have to check the "Load Out of Date AddOns" box on the top right of the AddOns window on the character selection screen. Do a search for the Carbonite addon here on WoWInterface (or Curse.com) and you will see that it is now modular. Install as many, or as few, of the modules that you want.

AddOns don't always have to be up-to-date to work. What you have to worry about is Lua errors. The only thing that makes addons out-of-date, as far as the game is concerned, is the interface number in the .toc file. You can have an up-to-date .toc file and still get major Lua errors from any addon. Install something like !BugGrabber (you can also get Bugger but you still need !BugGrabber) and BugSack to capture Lua errors and you should be good-to-go.

Kreelor 03-13-15 08:05 PM

So.....

Is Rythal still bedridden, in the hospital, or what? I truly hope he's not that ill. His last post was Feb 24 (17 days ago from this post) and it was a helpful post and most appreciated.

jktz122 wanted to know and said: ".. i'm curious if carbonite is still being updated for the current wow version 6.1 because so far its one of the few add ons i used and loved but still isnt updated .."

I guess I'm just one of many who would also like to know the answer. The GitHub (both Live Release and DEV" stats) show that very little has been done for at least the last 2 months, except for a couple, very minor changes. It's now March 13 and since January, activity has dwindled down to next to nothing since then. Two months or more for some things! Activity has stopped nearly completely (according to the GitHub stats). No reports on this forum, either. I see errors all the time but, reporting them does no good if they are never fixed. They are 'common' errors which almost anyone who plays the game have (probably) seen.

If Rythal is too sick, then that is totally understandable. I hope he's not!!! But, once again (without any intention of sounding like a "slave driver" as I've been called--wrongfully), it would certainly be nice to get some considerate, up-to-date feedback. I keep asking for that since it's not forthcoming. If Rythal can't provide that, maybe someone else might be able to? I'd love to know how Rythal is doing. I hope he is recovering from whatever his illness is! It was never mentioned by him and that's his business. I truly doubt that I'm the only person who is interested in both his health and also the progress of the addon - if any.

jktz122 03-14-15 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffy162 (Post 307506)
Carbonite has been updated on January 15, 2015, which means it'll still work in WoW 6.1, you'll just have to check the "Load Out of Date AddOns" box on the top right of the AddOns window on the character selection screen. Do a search for the Carbonite addon here on WoWInterface (or Curse.com) and you will see that it is now modular. Install as many, or as few, of the modules that you want.

AddOns don't always have to be up-to-date to work. What you have to worry about is Lua errors. The only thing that makes addons out-of-date, as far as the game is concerned, is the interface number in the .toc file. You can have an up-to-date .toc file and still get major Lua errors from any addon. Install something like !BugGrabber (you can also get Bugger but you still need !BugGrabber) and BugSack to capture Lua errors and you should be good-to-go.

thank you for replying

Petrah 03-15-15 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreelor (Post 307507)
So.....

Is Rythal still bedridden, in the hospital, or what?

Dude... give it a rest. He owes you nothing.

jeffy162 03-15-15 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jktz122 (Post 307522)
thank you for replying

You're very welcome. Sorry this is so late, but I just saw your post.

Just a FYI: Carbonite Maps is now the main module for Carbonite. You need to install that one if you're going to use Carbonite.

Kreelor 03-15-15 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrah (Post 307527)
Dude... give it a rest. He owes you nothing.

Yes. And that point has been made quite clearly.

Petrah 03-16-15 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreelor (Post 307535)
Yes. And that point has been made quite clearly.

Then why repeatedly poke it to death. It's unnerving, and upsetting, to watch you harass the guy. I participate on many different types of forums from gaming to fish tanks to rooting cell phones and I've never seen anyone be harassed like this. Frankly I admire the guy for having the patience to put up with it... as a subscriber having to witness it I'm almost at the boiling point with it.

I'm asking, please. Leave the guy alone.

mjumnito 03-16-15 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrah (Post 307541)
Then why repeatedly poke it to death. It's unnerving, and upsetting, to watch you harass the guy. I participate on many different types of forums from gaming to fish tanks to rooting cell phones and I've never seen anyone be harassed like this. Frankly I admire the guy for having the patience to put up with it... as a subscriber having to witness it I'm almost at the boiling point with it.

I'm asking, please. Leave the guy alone.

I couldn't agree with more. If the free addon causes you so much distress to the point of demanding weekly updates or not a single "error" then un-install and make your own. to be honest I'm surprised he hasn't put you on ignore. My self I have not only because I want to see the next demand and how far it will go.

Kreelor 04-01-15 11:07 AM

Stop trying to defame me for simply asking questions politely
 
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The two of you are attacking me personally merely because I asked about his health and the progress (if any) for this Carbonite addon.

I have never badgered nor demanded anything from the author. It appears to me that you two want to ridicule or defame me for asking for simple information. In my opinion, there is nothing in my post #17 that relates to anything that either of you are accusing me of. I find it strange indeed that there are so many people on this forum who insist upon answering for the author, as though their thoughts/plans, etc. are his own. That's why I keep asking HIM for an answer -- which I (nor none of us) ever seem to get a complete answer to. It makes me wonder. You may not care enough about this addon to "risk" asking questions, but I am too old to want to waste my time on something or someone who doesn't even care. I care, therefore I'm asking for myself and for anybody else who may not have the time or guts to ask. I AM NOT DEMANDING ANYTHING, NOR HAVE I EVER DONE THAT. I'm not the one who looks bad here. Why are you attacking me? Aren't any of you interested or at least curious about why the author isn't informing us of current addon status or UPDATES to it.

I'm not the only one who has asked, but I have probably asked more often than anyone else. Still no answers. That is NOT harassing; it is hopefully encouraging a reply. That's my intent.

I suppose I and everyone else will have to wait in utter silence for another year or two before we know anything, unless my guess is correct that the author has given up without an announcement. Not an accusation but merely a guess based upon looking at both the forum and the Github.

Please, don't continue harassing me for asking questions politely and pertinent to this addon.

SDPhantom 04-01-15 01:55 PM

Can't we all just calm down? I don't use Cabonite and never had a need for it. I'm just responding to the frustration displayed in this thread.

Kreelor:
I can see why they are calling you a slavedriver and why there's a lot of anger going back and forth over it. Just take a minute, calm down, and read over your posts carefully. It's going a little over the edge to inquire about what someone is doing with their personal time in the context of lack of work within said time. If I actually cared about the development of Carbonite, I understand, I'd want to know how it's going along too, but the wording of your posts does make them sound bad.



I'll point out sections that made me cringe reading.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreelor (Post 305987)
I'm simply asking again... what is going on? Why can't we be informed of an up-to-date status on a regular basis?

I may be mistaken, but if you're in Europe, I thought the Internet existed there, too? :D

If you are on vacation there, I don't mean to intrude by asking you to do any work on Carbonite. But, (if you aren't there), I'm sure we'd like to hear from you. It will be appreciated. Apparently, the other folks who have worked so very hard and diligently in helping you (without responses from you) are at a complete stand-still -- (they can't do anything without your participation!), since you are the only one who is making decisions for everyone else.

I know you're trying to be polite, but this still carries along the message, "If you're not on vacation, get back to work." If this section had been left out, you still would've had a post that sounded needy, but you probably wouldn't have been labeled a slavedriver.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Kreelor (Post 307507)
So.....

Is Rythal still bedridden, in the hospital, or what? I truly hope he's not that ill. His last post was Feb 24 (17 days ago from this post) and it was a helpful post and most appreciated.

jktz122 wanted to know and said: ".. i'm curious if carbonite is still being updated for the current wow version 6.1 because so far its one of the few add ons i used and loved but still isnt updated .."

I guess I'm just one of many who would also like to know the answer. The GitHub (both Live Release and DEV" stats) show that very little has been done for at least the last 2 months, except for a couple, very minor changes. It's now March 13 and since January, activity has dwindled down to next to nothing since then. Two months or more for some things! Activity has stopped nearly completely (according to the GitHub stats). No reports on this forum, either. I see errors all the time but, reporting them does no good if they are never fixed. They are 'common' errors which almost anyone who plays the game have (probably) seen.

If Rythal is too sick, then that is totally understandable. I hope he's not!!! But, once again (without any intention of sounding like a "slave driver" as I've been called--wrongfully), it would certainly be nice to get some considerate, up-to-date feedback. I keep asking for that since it's not forthcoming. If Rythal can't provide that, maybe someone else might be able to? I'd love to know how Rythal is doing. I hope he is recovering from whatever his illness is! It was never mentioned by him and that's his business. I truly doubt that I'm the only person who is interested in both his health and also the progress of the addon - if any.

I can't point out any specific chunk of this post that could've been written better to salvage it. To be honest, it's all bad. If you really wanted to show concern over Rythal's health, this was the one spot to focus on that and not bring Carbonite into it. A simple "get well soon" message with no mention of Carbonite would've been the better thing to post.

Cairenn 04-01-15 03:18 PM



I've seriously had enough of this thread.


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