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05-30-09, 07:47 AM   #13
stormkeep
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Originally Posted by Astrocanis View Post
So, it's your position that those users who have automatic updates for MS setup ("You have updates.") are really to blame when Microsoft adds a component to someone else' software that increases their security risks?

That the headlines informing people that such a breach of both ethics and etiquette are wrong for so doing? That those who have this installed without knowing about it are "mentally challenged"?

Finally, the removal method is well documented, but requires editing the registry and cannot be done through the standard mozilla methods of removing the plugin. But, because it's documented, they aren't "sneaking"? When the license that said that any document transmitted through any MSN service, including Hotmail, was property of Microsoft, you believe that because it so stated (in the fine print), that anyone who didn't like it was in error?

Must be nice to live in your glass house.
Where I came from sneaking means you are trying to avoid detection. If they were trying to avoid detection they wouldn't say right in the details what it does and how to remove it. Call it underhanded if you want, but "Sneaky" it wasn't.

And btw, yes, I consider it foolish to have completely "automatic updates" for anything other than AV/Anti-spyware foolish. Windows Update has a very nice tool that tells you what is available and lets you first read the details, and then choose what to update. It's the smart thing to do so that if something DOES go wrong you actually know what the heck recently changed.

The simple fact is that a person's PC is NOT going to have anything they don't want installed onto it unless they CHOOSE to do so. Choosing to let MS automatically install what they want by having auto-update on is user choice, plain and simple. And there's no one the user can blame but themself, imho. MS doesn't do stealth auto-updates. The updates are documented and users only get them automatically if they have chosen to do so. Yet you think the blame should fall more on the company than on the users who told them "go ahead and put what you want on my machine"? That's the problem with society today, no one wants to be accountable for their own choices.

Last edited by stormkeep : 05-30-09 at 08:13 AM.
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