Thanks for the input. I've fixed a few things that you've mentioned. I think it looks a bit better now. I am still not messing with my party frames because they work for now...I'm stubborn and am going to wait and see if there is a vertical Health/etc... bar out there. If not I might even obsess and spend the next month learning programming language and write one myself. (That'll make my girlfriend happy...one more thing to cause me to "ignore her" LOL.)