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08-16-12, 10:13 AM   #1
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If that pops up automatically you'll get dinged for advertising. That's exactly what Blizzard wants to stop with the addon policy, among other things.
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08-16-12, 11:06 AM   #2
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Well, for MoP releases I personally added a popup warning user that my addons will not work with GearScore enabled and 2 buttons to disable GS or my addon.
Can't think about anything better then that at the moment.
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08-16-12, 11:53 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Phanx View Post
Looked it up where? Their domain's nameservers point to EraNet's servers. Or rather, the nameservers are owned by now.net.cn, which is in Chinese but is obviously advertising web hosting, and clicking "English" on that site redirects to eranet.com.
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I looked up the webhost not the place that the domain was registered with.
Would be nice if we could get a definitive answer to this one. I did some research myself and I could only find links to EraNet myself. Has anyone had success with contacting the people behind 'alladdon' or their host?
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08-16-12, 12:51 PM   #4
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It looks like they're starting to respond to removal requests, the email I just got was: https://gist.github.com/9e663036fa85d2693a20
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08-16-12, 01:12 PM   #5
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I don't really know anything about copyrighting, nor what you put in your letter Shadowed, but surely one should not have to prove ones identity? Bar to override a previous stating that they have the right to publish your addons? On the contrary, couldn't we instead ask them for the legal proof that they have obtained such rights? Are you not allowed to ask someone to take down something for which they don't have distribution rights, if it's not your own work?
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08-16-12, 01:18 PM   #6
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You're correct, but that only matters if they care about the legality, which they have proven they don't.
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08-16-12, 01:51 PM   #7
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Posting a few points from IRC for everybody to see. Specifically about DMCA.

WoA is claiming they have 10 days to comply with any requests to remove content under the DMCA.

Master Games International is incorporated in Texas. They own TTH so all US laws apply to them.

TTH/WoA does not have a DMCA Registered agent, they do not have any protections under the DMCA.

WoA is hosted in Canada but by Tucows. Tucows has a DMCA Registered agent and does have DMCA protection and will comply with DMCA takedown notices.

The final most important point. It was WoA/TTH employees that uploaded the copyright content without permission. If they normally had protection under the DMCA, which they dont, they now have ZERO protection under the DMCA because they violated it themselves.

DO NOT ACCEPT ANY BULL**** FROM THEM ABOUT VERIFYING AUTHORS OR DELAYS IN REMOVING CONTENT! Send your DMCA takedown requests to Tucows for best results. WoA/TTH are legally up **** creek without a paddle in a kayak made of cardboard.

Tucows DMCA agent email: [email protected]

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08-16-12, 02:15 PM   #8
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Their latest response on the comments page for their announcement of World of Addons

http://www.tentonhammer.com/playersc...welcome?page=2

Instead, they are being told at the encouragement of a few to spam us with DMCAs, which have legal consequences for not only us, but for them as well, and well... once the lawyers get involved everything slows down.
The heck are they smoking here ?

Why? Well the faster our new site goes down, the faster those sites can return to making 100% of the money because of the monopolistic nature of their service. We arn't trying to make boat loads of money here. We are trying to provide a free and simple to use service that benefits everyone.
/facepalm

Totally missing the point as per usual.

Anyone is free to join and be a part of that service, and anyone is free to opt out and go elsewhere either. We have no intention of forcing anyone to stay here.
Forcing anyone to stay ?

We'll leave them alone when they remove our copyrighted work thankyouverymuchandgooddaysir
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08-18-12, 07:02 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Arrowmaster View Post
WoA is hosted in Canada but by Tucows. Tucows has a DMCA Registered agent and does have DMCA protection and will comply with DMCA takedown notices.
They're actually hosted by Convoke Communications (info in my post here).

I did send a takedown notice to Tucows for good measure; their response indicated that the site in question was not hosted on their servers, but is using their "domain whois privacy" service, and that they had forwarded the message to the domain registrant.

I have not recieved a response from Convoke yet. I couldn't find a DMCA registered agent for them on the US Copyright Office list, so I just sent it to the support email address listed on their website.
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08-16-12, 01:40 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Darth Predator View Post
Well, for MoP releases I personally added a popup warning user that my addons will not work with GearScore enabled and 2 buttons to disable GS or my addon.
Can't think about anything better then that at the moment.
Ooohh, that sounds like a nice idea. Is this actually allowed within the addon tos? If so, more people ought to do this.

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It looks like they're starting to respond to removal requests, the email I just got was: https://gist.github.com/9e663036fa85d2693a20
That's pretty scummy demanding that you show proof of ownership before they even consider doing anything.
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08-16-12, 11:07 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Cladhaire View Post
If that pops up automatically you'll get dinged for advertising. That's exactly what Blizzard wants to stop with the addon policy, among other things.
hm. would it constitute as 'advertising'?

it simply states where to get offical updates for this specific addon to hopefully make users aware that there exist sites out there that like that russian one that give you a trojan.

it does not mention donations, payment, or anything else.

I belive that it will adhere to the policy, as it is stated here: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1820963720


ofc it wont appear each time you login (that would annoy the h... out of everyone). only each time the addon is updated.

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08-16-12, 11:34 AM   #12
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A popup will either anger Blizzard and/or the users. Putting that in an About or Help section of your menus should be perfectly fine.
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