Ion Alpha

[Phanx]

"MoP" in this context means Patch 5.0.4, so unless you're in a region that hasn't updated yet, you can use Ion right now, and Macaroon shouldn't be working.

Unfortunately, I'm stuck using Bartender for now, as Ion isn't really usable for me in its current state, with no support for custom state definitions, dual spec swapping, or even different bar layouts/keybindings for different characters. The loss of Macaroon_Bound is pretty painful, too. I couldn't find an up-to-date direct-binding addon for spells/macros, so I've had to resort to filling up a Lua file with class checks and tons of SetOverrideBinding lines.

Ion's completion is probably the most-anticipated addon event of my life.

[Maul]

Originally Posted by Phanx Unfortunately, I'm stuck using Bartender for now, as Ion isn't really usable for me in its current state, with no support for custom state definitions, dual spec swapping, or even different bar layouts/keybindings for different characters. The loss of Macaroon_Bound is pretty painful, too. I couldn't find an up-to-date direct-binding addon for spells/macros, so I've had to resort to filling up a Lua file with class checks and tons of SetOverrideBinding lines. Ion's completion is probably the most-anticipated addon event of my life.

I plan to get the custom stuff in very soon. Since the plan is to introduce custom visibility, I wanted to get the GUI for visibility done first before I got the custom action states working.

The layouts and profiles really need to wait until I can get the whole bar group feature established and solid. Bar groups are essentially what Macaroon did natively with unique buttons in each state, but with the approach of Ion I took (simple if you want it simple), I have to build up to that functionality, which has been a complex process.

[Phanx]

Yeah, unfortunately for me, separate settings for characters, and bar groups, are the most important parts of my bar setup. Based on your earlier description of how bar grouping will work in Ion -- creating separate bars by hand, setting up visibility so that each was visible in a different state and hidden in all others by hand, and then placing them in the same location on the screen by hand -- it's going to be a LOT more work than it was in Macaroon, but I guess I'll live.

[Maul]

Originally Posted by Phanx Yeah, unfortunately for me, separate settings for characters, and bar groups, are the most important parts of my bar setup. Based on your earlier description of how bar grouping will work in Ion -- creating separate bars by hand, setting up visibility so that each was visible in a different state and hidden in all others by hand, and then placing them in the same location on the screen by hand -- it's going to be a LOT more work than it was in Macaroon, but I guess I'll live.

Well, I hope to make the Bar Group creation process easy and not a whole lot of "making things by hand first". In addition, placement of all bars in a group will be as simple as telling how you want the bars in a group to be aligned. You can have the bars justified left or right, top or bottom. Ion will take care of the placement.

In fact, with the way it is going, it will almost be like two addons in one. The "simple" Ion addon, with simple bars. And the Trinity/Macaroon style addon. All based on if a bar is a stand alone or a actually a bar group.

I am trying to adopt Blizzard's own philosophy, "Easy to learn, difficult to master". In this context, many new users can start using Ion with ease without needed "Customer Service" just to get up to speed. And then for the users that want to take the red pill and see how deep the rabbit hole can go in custom bar addons, I hope to sate those needs as well

[Raederle]

I'll be delighted when we have the profiles again. With 30 characters across three servers all sharing the same dozen bars and keybinds, I do not want to set up from scratch 30 times!

Thank you for doing the overhaul Maul. Without Macaroon (now Ion), pitbull, clique and moveanything I wouldn't still be playing WoW. And of that collection yours is the least substitutable.

Best Regards, Raederle

[BadCo]

Same for me about this being THE most important addon... w/o Macaroon, I just do NOT play WoW, I've been tinkering with Ion since Tuesday.

I look forward to being able to get my bars to let me do the quests in Dark Moon Faire. The "vehicle and possession" attributes do not seem to be working yet.

Press on Maul... many of us won't play the game without Ion. And thanx so much for the work u've put in the last several years.

[thespillmonkey]

Originally Posted by Raederle I'll be delighted when we have the profiles again. With 30 characters across three servers all sharing the same dozen bars and keybinds, I do not want to set up from scratch 30 times! Thank you for doing the overhaul Maul. Without Macaroon (now Ion), pitbull, clique and moveanything I wouldn't still be playing WoW. And of that collection yours is the least substitutable. Best Regards, Raederle

Profiles are working again? Am i missing them somewhere ?

[Phaedre]

Originally Posted by thespillmonkey Originally Posted by Raederle I'll be delighted when we have the profiles again... Profiles are working again? Am i missing them somewhere ?

The operative word is "when".

So, no at this time, profiles have not been implemented. Dual Spec has.