You can no longer scan the cache for NPCs

[Torhal]

Originally Posted by zork <snip> I'm not sure if this will make it to the live server though. Sometimes they only activate stuff for testing on the PTR.

I spoke with one of the server devs last BlizzCon, and he told me they've been wanting to kill NPCScan for years now.

[Resike]

Originally Posted by Torhal I spoke with one of the server devs last BlizzCon, and he told me they've been wanting to kill NPCScan for years now.

Wow, what a rude mofos.

I mean what the hell is their problem with it?

[p3lim]

Originally Posted by Resike Wow, what a rude mofos. I mean what the hell is their problem with it?

Their game, they can do whatever they want.

In any case, NPCScan is really hacky, taking advantage of the way clients and servers communicate, although it was not giving anyone an advantage in PvE or PvP, that's probably why it's been left alone for so long.

[MysticalOS]

don't need cache anymore IF blizzard fixes this

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9972357544

Vignettes are better, but only work for about a couple hours after a reboot before they are completely USELESS. I haven't done enough testing in beta to determine if fixed there. those servers reboot so often that it'd be hard to ID the bug there since they are much lower pop which means it may take a couple days before vignette IDs become too high, and by that time servers have probably rebooted, so no way to know if they fixed the IDs going out of bounds yet.

[semlar]

They fixed vignettes, but they don't exist for anything before Mists of Pandaria.

Vignettes have their own issues, particularly the fact that a substantial number of them have names that don't match the mob names, meaning you can't rely on them to create a targeting macro or match them to an NPC ID without a substantial amount of work.



They intentionally left the NPC ID out of vignette GUIDs, so I don't know how inclined they'd be to making it easier on us.

[TOM_RUS]

Originally Posted by semlar They intentionally left the NPC ID out of vignette GUIDs, so I don't know how inclined they'd be to making it easier on us.

Vignettes have no NPC id, but they do have unique vignette id that isn't exposed through the api. They could have exposed it by adding one single line of code, but they didn't. Question is why?

[Resike]

Originally Posted by p3lim Their game, they can do whatever they want. In any case, NPCScan is really hacky, taking advantage of the way clients and servers communicate, although it was not giving anyone an advantage in PvE or PvP, that's probably why it's been left alone for so long.

Well it's two different thing fixing their horrible cache method, or wanting to kill a specific addon.

[Nynaeve]

Originally Posted by Resike Well it's two different thing fixing their horrible cache method, or wanting to kill a specific addon.

These things are not exactly mutually exclusive. Perhaps Blizzard thought of it as a "twofer" type situation.

I do love that we're trying to solve button bloat, but then breaking the functionality of an addon that helps prevent some button bloat (by way of not needing a ton of /target macros) (not to mention the other things, like removing the hunter aspect bar, making hunters have to pull out more buttons... but that one is neither here, nor there).

If they didn't really intend to break the functionality, they'll provide some other method (though the lack of visible vignette ids would likely indicate they have no desire to do so).

Speaking of vignettes... I wonder if they'll ever have time to add them for rares from previous expansions?

[Resike]

Originally Posted by Nynaeve These things are not exactly mutually exclusive. Perhaps Blizzard thought of it as a "twofer" type situation. I do love that we're trying to solve button bloat, but then breaking the functionality of an addon that helps prevent some button bloat (by way of not needing a ton of /target macros) (not to mention the other things, like removing the hunter aspect bar, making hunters have to pull out more buttons... but that one is neither here, nor there). If they didn't really intend to break the functionality, they'll provide some other method (though the lack of visible vignette ids would likely indicate they have no desire to do so). Speaking of vignettes... I wonder if they'll ever have time to add them for rares from previous expansions?

Well, they seems to lose way too more player then gaining by modifying stuff which was in the game for years.
About this button bloat stuff i did not managed to fill 2 action bars in the beta with all of my skills as a warrior which is ridiculous even if you consider that warrior is probably has the most spells ingame.