UI Feedback Thread - Page 26

haylie · 03-29-11, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Haleth

Hi thread.

Been getting back to UI modding

Your whole UI has a sharp, crisp feeling and the fuzzy outline of the chat font really clashes with it. It basically stands out as a huge sore spot in an otherwise very well matched UI. I'd suggest using a simple shadow instead of outline or adding a panel behind it.

Aprikot · 03-29-11, 11:52 AM

So much font hate

1px borders <3 1px font outlines imo which means monochrome, which means pixel font. An who says chat can't be pixel font?

There are some fine examples.

(I think 2px+ outlines <3 regular font outlines ala ALZA

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And yeah, taste, preference, subjectivity, etc. I like the "it's all subjective but your way sucks" argument.

Mischback · 03-29-11, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Aprikot

And yeah, taste, preference, subjectivity, etc. I like the "it's all subjective but your way sucks" argument.

Meh, this was not my argument. I hope it didn't seem so.

Really, I would love to use pixelfonts in an UI, but I can't stand looking at them. I see the benefits, though.

My argument, as it should be read: When you mix pixel- and non-pixel-fonts, make sure it fits in its overall look'n'feel. Which is exactly, what I'm missing in Haleth's shot. I do think this can be overcome by selecting another chat-font.

Aprikot · 03-29-11, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mischback

Meh, this was not my argument. I hope it didn't seem so.

Sorry...wasn't trying to single you out or anything.

Originally Posted by Mischback

My argument, as it should be read: When you mix pixel- and non-pixel-fonts, make sure it fits in its overall look'n'feel.

We are in agreement.

Led ++ · 03-29-11, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tanthalus

Lol, pixel fonts definitely do NOT belong as the chat font. What rubbish is that? Though his chosen pixel font is poor. I would find a pixel font that has better spacing (1 pixel not 2 like this)and use OUTLINE, MONOCHROME for better outlines.

Some pixel fonts need to be set to monochrome, and set -1 size lower to get their best spacing. Others just have bad spacing no matter what you do.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Publi...jpg?w=981bfaab

Was it so bad then? -.-*

To be honest, I barely used my chat for info I need to know on the fly.

edit: Damn seeing my UI wants me to play with it again.

khangg · 03-29-11, 12:46 PM

my latest attempt at a consistent ui:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10662676/WoW...911_122742.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10662676/WoW...911_143020.jpg

excluding the dps meter and leveling guide, i managed to get a 1px border for everything

Lily.Petal · 03-29-11, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Led ++

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Publi...jpg?w=981bfaab

Was it so bad then? -.-*

To be honest, I barely used my chat for info I need to know on the fly.

edit: Damn seeing my UI wants me to play with it again.

cant see it =[ /cry

Led ++ · 03-29-11, 01:05 PM

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15576616/WoW...611_214805.jpg

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Lily.Petal · 03-29-11, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Led ++

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15576616/WoW...611_214805.jpg

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Much better

And sooo tiny font >< WTB better eyes.

Oraknathal · 03-29-11, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Led ++

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15576616/WoW...611_214805.jpg

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what boss timers are you using?

zork · 03-29-11, 04:10 PM

rDiabloPlates now supports nameplate and font scaling, aswell as positioning (moving nameplates up/down)

Using a helper frame finally made the point. Thus spreadnameplates can now be used again without huge screen clutter.

Scaling is set to 0.82. Comparsion to scale 1: http://www.abload.de/img/wowscrnshot_022611_005573q.jpg

sacrife · 03-29-11, 04:19 PM

I really like khanggs UI and Led's UI.

They are quite different in their style, but both serve their purpose really well.

Personally I would go for Led's UI with some modifications (which is what I have actually).

I disagree with having a pixel font for the chat though as that's just 2 much text to have that small.

I focus my entire UI with my chat font(Myriad Pro Semibold) while unitframes/castbars/nameplates/bossbars/buffs uses a pixel font. Mainly because it fits the 1 pixel border style and takes up a lot less space.

Cala · 03-29-11, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Julchen

If u want i can help with some coding, especially with Disc/Shadow Priest and Tankpala spezific CD's.

Provided an example, I can easily knock out druids - yes. All 4 specializations. And I can probably help out Julchen on holy priests.

Tanthalus · 03-29-11, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Haleth

No need to be so fierce. I've seen pixel fonts in a chat frame, it can be done. I just don't like it, myself.

Anyways, not sure what you mean about the pixel font. Fairly sure the spacing is at its minimum, and as you can see it's already using monochrome outline.

Afaik SetSpacing(x) is vertical, not horizontal.

Only fierce because I see bad UI advice given so often with so little thought put into it. The chat font should never be a pixel font. The chat font is about readability. Pixel fonts are for fitting in small UI real-estate where contrast is very important (and where normal fonts fall short).

SetSpacing(x) has nothing to do with character spacing, but line spacing. His pixel font has a bad 2px spacing set onto it. Sometimes this is simply due to the font itself, sometimes it is due to a combination of the MONOCHROME mod and the font size. My pixel font of choice, without MONOCHROME, has teh same 2px spacing, while under MONOCHROME and set to -1 size lower, has 1px spacing and looks much better, thus my suggestion.

**Seerah** · 03-29-11, 06:35 PM

Now, now... Some people can read pixel fonts just fine. Customized UIs are all about the *user's* preference.

Anyway, it seems I'm going to have to state again that this thread is not the location to debate pixel fonts.

Tanthalus · 03-29-11, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Seerah

Anyway, it seems I'm going to have to state again that this thread is not the location to debate pixel fonts.

UI Feedback Thread

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Being able to read them and readability are two different things.

Nerielle · 03-29-11, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Led ++

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15576616/WoW...611_214805.jpg

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:O I like this. Am currently using your uploaded last version. v happy with it

Nibelheim · 03-29-11, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tanthalus

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To expand on Seerah's comment, comments like "I like your UI, I just don't really like the Pixel font you've chosen" or "I don't think Pixel Fonts go well with your UI design" etc are fine, but when you start debating the finer points of Pixel Fonts vs Regular Fonts, then it should probably go into it's own thread

Tanthalus · 03-29-11, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Nibelheim

To expand on Seerah's comment, comments like "I like your UI, I just don't really like the Pixel font you've chosen" or "I don't think Pixel Fonts go well with your UI design" etc are fine, but when you start debating the finer points of Pixel Fonts vs Regular Fonts, then it should probably go into it's own thread

Thats reasonable.

Aprikot · 03-29-11, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Seerah

Anyway, it seems I'm going to have to state again that this thread is not the location to debate pixel fonts.

Trouble is screenshot feedback is where it comes up most.

Not sure if a dedicated thread can sustain itself, but for anyone interested, debate pixel fonts here.