Where do we go from here

[Rythal]

While we have been thankful to faatal & haavok for the addon we know and love, we are now standing on the thresh-hold.

The source has been released to us, The source is actually very nice to work with since it is broken down into what controls what, and seperate files for each part of it. This will make fixing it a lot easier for myself and any others who chose to, along with allowing all the things we wanted and hoped for to come to reality.

I have uploaded the version a lot of us were already using, even tho it's still not perfect. And as of now I'm not doing anymore updates. (no don't get scared explanation coming)

It just wouldn't make sense to continue updating the massive 26k line beast I have been, not when we have this wonderful orderly meal given to us by them. So I need to redo all the changes I've done up to this point, just to get us on stable footing for moving forward. Once i've reached that point, then we can look at what not I only I want but what you the community wants, and work towards creating the Carbonite we always hoped and dreamed for.

[mondoz]

Your hard work is much appreciated!

[Teakettle]

Thank you for the updates, I find the map and its features to be very helpful.

What version of the GPL is the code released?

-- Found it - Version 3 (from the readme file)

[schizophrena]

I'm sure the open source will save you countless months worth of sleepless nights, but you will still be putting in many I'm sure. Thank you for your willingness to take on the project and your time to upgrade it back to a very worthy and fixed status.

One thing you may also want to explain is how people who are interested in writing and supplying code for you can go about it. I am not one of those types, my understanding is extremely limited and I don't have the time to learn or do it either - but I know this will be a question of many.

[Rythal]

I'll be using WI's git services for that, I already created the GIT, and will upload the source once it's up to date.

[tinyu]

One thing that I've requested multiple times is a option to completely disable Carbonites Flight Timer because the times keep changing depending on the direction the taxi is going, if it goes towards the desitinion it counts down if its moving away it counts up.

Also a complete overhaul of the Options window would be a definate must, perhaps utilize Blizzards option menus?

[gOOvER]

Originally Posted by Rythal I'll be using WI's git services for that, I already created the GIT, and will upload the source once it's up to date.

Would be great when you also host on Github. A lot of work is todo and Github is better for social coding, because Carbonite has not only 10 Lines of code.

Nothing against WI Git.

In past i started to implement AceLocale, to make Carbonite ready for Multilanguage, but i stopped, because of old Licence.

With GPL i will start again, if you are intressted in help

Btw: What do you think about to rename Carbonite to osCarbonite? (os = OpenSource)

[clipper]

Originally Posted by Rythal Once i've reached that point, then we can look at what not I only I want but what you the community wants, and work towards creating the Carbonite we always hoped and dreamed for.

I remember an early version of your fan update had a checkbox like "Use Blizzard's Quest POI" or something like that, which caused it to use the Blizzard map blobs instead of checking Carbonite's internal db. Is there even any reason for Carbonite to maintain an internal quest location db now that WoW natively supports that? It seems that's always been one of the last things to get fixed whenever a new zone opens up, and of course it's always the first thing everyone needs when a new zone opens up.

Btw, please do not remove the per-character settings, many of my toons use the map in very different ways.

Also, I do use the enhanced social window, I like the way it maintains the "friends list" across different toons without needing to use Blizzard's RealId crap.

Things that I really, really miss from when Carbonite was being more regularly updated:

• The gather nodes being in the right place
• The map nodes for world objects like forges, anvils, Inns, Banks, flight masters, et al, being complete and correct.
• I really miss the internal database of what merchants sold which items. Carbonite used to be able to able to point me to the nearest merchant who sells Crystal Vials or whatever.
• Hey could we please add Flight Trainers to the list of trainers it can point us to?

Thanks man, I am *so* looking forward to Carbonite getting back to what it once was (the most awesome addon I've ever seen, for any game!)

[Rythal]

Originally Posted by clipper I remember an early version of your fan update had a checkbox like "Use Blizzard's Quest POI" or something like that, which caused it to use the Blizzard map blobs instead of checking Carbonite's internal db. Is there even any reason for Carbonite to maintain an internal quest location db now that WoW natively supports that? It seems that's always been one of the last things to get fixed whenever a new zone opens up, and of course it's always the first thing everyone needs when a new zone opens up. Btw, please do not remove the per-character settings, many of my toons use the map in very different ways. Also, I do use the enhanced social window, I like the way it maintains the "friends list" across different toons without needing to use Blizzard's RealId crap. Things that I really, really miss from when Carbonite was being more regularly updated: The gather nodes being in the right place The map nodes for world objects like forges, anvils, Inns, Banks, flight masters, et al, being complete and correct. I really miss the internal database of what merchants sold which items. Carbonite used to be able to able to point me to the nearest merchant who sells Crystal Vials or whatever. Hey could we please add Flight Trainers to the list of trainers it can point us to? Thanks man, I am *so* looking forward to Carbonite getting back to what it once was (the most awesome addon I've ever seen, for any game!)

The problem with use blizzards POI is it only worked in the current zone since it relies on map data provided by blizzard. When there is no map data because either the quest doesn't provide any or your in another zone it errors (like is happening now).

per-character is going no where, when it goes to aceDB you'll have the same profile style window you already have with many addons and can copy or save as you wish per character, or save as default etc.

[clipper]

Originally Posted by Rythal The problem with use blizzards POI is it only worked in the current zone since it relies on map data provided by blizzard. When there is no map data because either the quest doesn't provide any or your in another zone it errors (like is happening now).

Oh, so *that's* what's going on...
And yet, I'm almost sure that some of the quests that aren't currently working *are* in the same zone that I'm in...? I'd have to go back and check, but I don't think I've received any quests outside of the Jade Forest yet.

[Rythal]

Originally Posted by clipper Oh, so *that's* what's going on... And yet, I'm almost sure that some of the quests that aren't currently working *are* in the same zone that I'm in...? I'd have to go back and check, but I don't think I've received any quests outside of the Jade Forest yet.

aye... anytime one doesn't work, if you look at the blizzard map (alt-m) it won't have it either, so while it looks like it's a problem with Carbonite not picking it up, it's actually blizzard never set anything for it. Thats why the internal quest databases were used, and internal is used by any questing addon... the blizzard one is just to unreliable.

[Muezick]

What great news to wake up to.

Thank you Havok and Fataal and thank you thank you Rythal! I will be closely following all of this. I'm a huge fan of you Rythal! Can't wait for modulized Carbonite and a stable healthy version!