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05-22-09, 06:38 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
Okies... and for what it's worth, a simple '/nui rl' should have the exact same effect as a "complete reload" and is much faster.
Nope, doesn't fix it, nor does a /console reloadui....

Next....

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05-22-09, 06:50 AM   #42
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Well... if a '/console reloadui' doesn't fix it, then the problem you have is either in WoW itself or your computer because the '/nui rl' and '/console reloadui' restart the entire addon engine from the ground up... new thread, new memory, reload all of the source code for the mods, reinitialize saved variables, etc. So, if that doesn't fix the problem, then the problem is not related to your addons.
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05-22-09, 06:58 AM   #43
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Yeah, had a sneaking suspision that it wasn't the case, now to try and track down what in my system is causing me grief...... might have to talk to the Household Command Officer about aquiring a new PC..... /sigh

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05-24-09, 08:52 AM   #44
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Scott,

I don't know what is going on, but I always seem to be in the minority. When other people have problems, my system runs like a dream. When changes are made to correct problems, that is when my system starts acting up.

Now I will be the first to say that I am an addon junkie. I have quite a few addons running at the same time. That said...when I am trouble shooting problems, I always backup my WTF folder, delete it and begin the process of disabling 5 addons at a time until I find the cause of my problem(s).

After about an hour of using this method, I have 2 addons that seem to aggravate the Bliz garbage collecting bug.

nUI and Carbonite

I am sure other addons have the same issue, its just these 2 that cause the most problems. Even running solo with no other addons, the problem is there, it just takes a little longer to peak.

I am running the latest version 5.03.04-Dev on a Macbook Pro w/ 2gb ram.
I don't do much raiding so I can't tell you if this happens in a raid scenario. With all my addons active, it takes about 1 hr for me to start having low FPS and high memory usage issues.
(FPS drops to 5)
(nUI memory usage jumps from 10mb to 55mb)
(Carbonite memory usage jumps from 13mb to 25mb)

Both nUI and carbonite running solo, it takes about 3 hrs for the problem to start. I have not tested all my addons solo, but Auctioneer ( which is the next addon with high memory usage ) running solo for 5 hrs does not cause the issue. LOL.. I have way to many addons to test them all out solo. This round of testing took me almost a week to do.

I waited this long to report my problem because I wanted to make sure I isolated all other addons first.

I know there are some bugs with Bliz and you are doing all you can to lighten the problem. I just figured I would report my problem with some detail, just in case there are others out there who were affected with the latest update. I don't think there is anything that can be done, until Bliz fixes issues on their end. I could be wrong though. I am no programmer, just a user that knows enough to be dangerous.

I did not have the memory or FPS issue until this last release. And yes, /nui rl does clear the problem. That is how I have been getting by. About every hour I have to send that command and then I am good for another hour.

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05-24-09, 09:26 AM   #45
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I"m curious what happens if you do this the other way around...

Rename WTF and Interface both and log into WoW, set up video and sound and exit again. Then install only nUI and play a while... what happens? Same problem?
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05-24-09, 09:30 AM   #46
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Scott,

I am heading out for the day. I will give this a try this evening and let you know the results.

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05-24-09, 11:27 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by gman265 View Post
Scott,

I don't know what is going on, but I always seem to be in the minority. When other people have problems, my system runs like a dream. When changes are made to correct problems, that is when my system starts acting up.

Now I will be the first to say that I am an addon junkie. I have quite a few addons running at the same time. That said...when I am trouble shooting problems, I always backup my WTF folder, delete it and begin the process of disabling 5 addons at a time until I find the cause of my problem(s).

After about an hour of using this method, I have 2 addons that seem to aggravate the Bliz garbage collecting bug.

nUI and Carbonite

I am sure other addons have the same issue, its just these 2 that cause the most problems. Even running solo with no other addons, the problem is there, it just takes a little longer to peak.

I am running the latest version 5.03.04-Dev on a Macbook Pro w/ 2gb ram.
I don't do much raiding so I can't tell you if this happens in a raid scenario. With all my addons active, it takes about 1 hr for me to start having low FPS and high memory usage issues.
(FPS drops to 5)
(nUI memory usage jumps from 10mb to 55mb)
(Carbonite memory usage jumps from 13mb to 25mb)

Both nUI and carbonite running solo, it takes about 3 hrs for the problem to start. I have not tested all my addons solo, but Auctioneer ( which is the next addon with high memory usage ) running solo for 5 hrs does not cause the issue. LOL.. I have way to many addons to test them all out solo. This round of testing took me almost a week to do.

I waited this long to report my problem because I wanted to make sure I isolated all other addons first.

I know there are some bugs with Bliz and you are doing all you can to lighten the problem. I just figured I would report my problem with some detail, just in case there are others out there who were affected with the latest update. I don't think there is anything that can be done, until Bliz fixes issues on their end. I could be wrong though. I am no programmer, just a user that knows enough to be dangerous.

I did not have the memory or FPS issue until this last release. And yes, /nui rl does clear the problem. That is how I have been getting by. About every hour I have to send that command and then I am good for another hour.

Thanks,

gman
I can second on this issue. Same two addons. Carbonite and nUI. This became a major issue as of late seeing as I've started to doing Wintergrasp multiple times daily and it's usual practice to form 40 man raid groups. Memory usage absolutely sky rockets once the group is maxed to the point that I've got a addon switcher addon to change to a bare minimum addons enabled profile just to go to WG. nUI I've seen go through the roof, and carbonite will spike ahead with it as well. I'm quite aware of the intense and limitless spell intensity ect with the WG zone but I believe I have my settings at a optimal medium and perhaps lower than needed with the system I'm running.

I've got 4GB memory w/Intel Core 2 Duo Processor, NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS card w/ 1GB DDR3 dedicated ram
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Well you have a better system than me .. granted I don't do wintergrasp or 40 man raids but I have noticed the odd spikage when I do 25 Naxx and I've DC'd a couple of times but then so have others that do not have nUI but do have carbonite. I don't use Carbonite but do have nUI. But, knowing how much nUI is doing and carbonite I am guessing does a lot of processing, they would be pulling in more memory usage as Blizzard hasn't got a database system in place people can use. All data used by the addon has to be stored in memory while it is active.
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
I"m curious what happens if you do this the other way around...

Rename WTF and Interface both and log into WoW, set up video and sound and exit again. Then install only nUI and play a while... what happens? Same problem?
Scott,

4 hours of playing, without my precious addons, seems to be my limit. Following your instructions above, I played with only nUI for 4 hours. I seem to have the same problem, it just took a little longer to peak. I reloaded the UI and all went back to normal.
I'm sorry, I do not have the patience to give it another go. (4 hours is a long time) I really miss my addons and find it difficult to play without them.

I guess I will just keep reloading the UI when necessary. If you need anything else, please let me know.

Thanks,

gman

EDIT -- I am going to do the same with just Carbonite loaded. I suspect I will get the same results. I will let you know.
EDIT -- I finished testing with just Carbonite loaded. It seams that Carbonite memory jumps is actually worse than nUI. Maybe I just have an issue with my system.

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05-25-09, 09:45 AM   #50
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Well... I can't speak for Carbonite, but I have seen some situations in which nUI is still ticking off a respectable amount of memory... I'm working on resolving that.

In the meantime though, it looks to me like the garbage collector is simply not running on your system and that's a huge problem... but also entirely unrelated to any specific mod.
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05-25-09, 06:32 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by spiel2001 View Post
Well... I can't speak for Carbonite, but I have seen some situations in which nUI is still ticking off a respectable amount of memory... I'm working on resolving that.

In the meantime though, it looks to me like the garbage collector is simply not running on your system and that's a huge problem... but also entirely unrelated to any specific mod.
Thanks Scott...

Garbage collector is working. I run performance fu and I can see the collection times on it. It does seem to reduce the amount used. It's just after a while, the collector can't keep up with the rapid gain.

No worries man... I can live with it. After all, I am the addon junkie that just can't play without my fix.

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06-12-09, 05:57 AM   #52
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I still see a massive increase in memory used 100mb+ is not unusual for nUI on my end. In the end the game starts lagging so much, that I have to relog and disable nUI, this instantly resolves the lag on my end.
Being at work atm. I cannot provide much technical information, but I will update this post when I get home with more accurate information, including version numbers etc.

EDIT: Of course the login server to my realm is down atm. so I can't even log in now to provide any further usefull info.. I will try again later. =(

I have not yet done a "clean" setup with nUI+, because I'm a stubborn fool that assumed that nothing could go wrong. So yes that will be my next course of action. Anyway, I will still provide you with as much data as I can, before attempting a clean nUI setup. Hoping that it can reveal some bugs that you can squish with that dwarf beard.

EDIT2: I am running nUI+ 5.03.01 at the time I was experiencing this. The place I experienced it was in Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin and in Heroic Ulduar. I have, at the time of writing this, not been able to reproduce the same error, so therefore I suggest you ignore this post. I will make a new one here, should the problem arise again, and then I will make sure to post as much information as I can.

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06-12-09, 06:09 AM   #53
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Which version of nUI are you running?

100+ Meg! o.O

I have never seen it over about 54meg and in a 40 man raid. Very strange indeed. Have you followed the clean install instructions in http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21716 and are you running the most current version (5.03.10) ?
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06-16-09, 01:19 AM   #54
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I have *almost* the same issue. With Carbonite AND nUI running my memory peaked last night in WG @ 127Mb - however i do NOT get an FPS loss - i stayed up at 30+ all the time.

My system has 4GB ram, Intel 6600 and nvidia 9800GTX with 768Mb Ram
 
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Let me ask you the same question... what version of nUI are you running?
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06-16-09, 07:01 AM   #56
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I'm running 5.03.01 plus
 
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AH -- okay -- that's why you're still having that issue... there has been a *lot* of work done in the development version to address that problem. However, that code has not been released yet because I still have three more modules to complete and test.

I *strongly* recommend you give 5.03.11 a try and see what happens... I'm confident you'll find your memory usage *much* lower and I also suspect you'll see a significant improvement in your frame rates.
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