Massive AddOn Author Cataclysm Beta Key Give-Away! - Page 33

Drazisil · 07-23-10, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dralmoo

Plus SC2 is coming out next week, if I were blizzard I'd be wary of changing anything to do with their auth code.

Yah, if they made a change that let our keys work and it rejected the SC2 game keys on lunch night... *shudders*

GT4 · 07-23-10, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dralmoo

Even if the fix is simple, you have to realize this is one of the most critical pieces of code for their business - it's the code that decides if you own a game or not. I'm sure even if there is a fix done internally, it has to go through a lot of regression testing, and then who knows what their process is to push code live.

Plus SC2 is coming out next week, if I were blizzard I'd be wary of changing anything to do with their auth code.

Especially with SC2 coming out next week I'd push the team to fix possible errors with the game management as soon as possible, for two different reasons:
1) The same bug may occur when trying to insert your SC2 CD key. That would be devastating.
2) You do not want to have potential Battle.net downtimes just after the SC2 release.

omergurlek · 07-23-10, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dralmoo

Even if the fix is simple, you have to realize this is one of the most critical pieces of code for their business - it's the code that decides if you own a game or not. I'm sure even if there is a fix done internally, it has to go through a lot of regression testing, and then who knows what their process is to push code live.

Plus SC2 is coming out next week, if I were blizzard I'd be wary of changing anything to do with their auth code.

They already totally changed the battle.net website yesterday (and by the looks of it, the auth code as well), what else can they do?

Kaidian · 07-23-10, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by omergurlek

They already totally changed the battle.net website yesterday (and by the looks of it, the auth code as well), what else can they do?

Its the new site that is the issue

omergurlek · 07-23-10, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Kaidian

Its the new site that is the issue

Yeah thats what I mean.

Dralmoo said they wouldn't attempt to touch the game auth codes when SC2 release was so close, but they already totally revamped the website yesterday, so why not?

GT4 · 07-23-10, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by omergurlek

Yeah thats what I mean.

Dralmoo said they wouldn't attempt to touch the game auth codes when SC2 release was so close, but they already totally revamped the website yesterday, so why not?

They could break the broken site.

omergurlek · 07-23-10, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by GT4

They could break the broken site.

Oh god!

Icecoldcoke · 07-23-10, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by GT4

They could break the broken site.

But if a broken website becomes broken.... does that mean that it's fixed?

Shadowkith · 07-23-10, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by omergurlek

Yeah thats what I mean.

Dralmoo said they wouldn't attempt to touch the game auth codes when SC2 release was so close, but they already totally revamped the website yesterday, so why not?

And what if the auth code mishap pertains to the SCII codes also. One how would they know now if I would. I would rather fix it now than come SCII release and those codes dont work also.

ezarra · 07-23-10, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Hamstah-Emeriss

I'd be very VERY cautious about where you get a downloader from - if it isn't from blizzard's official servers, there's a good chance it may contain keyloggers which may not even be caught by virus protection.

Better to just wait for the keys to start working.

Or just yank the .torrent file out and download the files with µTorrent. Or, even better, get a Mac.

omergurlek · 07-23-10, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowkith

And what if the auth code mishap pertains to the SCII codes also. One how would they know now if I would. I would rather fix it now than come SCII release and those codes dont work also.

Indeed. I'm all up for them fixing now!

MouzArt · 07-23-10, 11:05 AM

Please be aware that we are having issues with players being able to claim Cataclysm beta keys currently for all regions. We are looking into this issue and will hopefully have a better update before the end of our day today. If you have given keys out to anyone, please have them hold on to them. The keys are not the problem and it seems to be an issue within the battle.net system. We’ll let you all know once this issue is resolved.

Quoted from WoWAce.com

quicksylver · 07-23-10, 11:06 AM

Please be aware that we are having issues with players being able to claim Cataclysm beta keys currently for all regions. We are looking into this issue and will hopefully have a better update before the end of our day today. If you have given keys out to anyone, please have them hold on to them. The keys are not the problem and it seems to be an issue within the battle.net system. We’ll let you all know once this issue is resolved.

http://wow.curseforge.com/announceme...lysm-beta-key/

wow.curseforge.com is also affected by the same thing... So they're basically in the same boat as us.

Dralmoo · 07-23-10, 11:08 AM

The new site has a lot of SC2 related features, so it had to launch before SC2. Clearly they tested sc2 keys, but not this type of Cata beta key. I'm just saying fixing fansite beta keys is probably not a huge priority under the circumstances, so if their is any risk to it, it may have to wait.

I don't have any inside info, I could be totally wrong, I certainly hope I am!

omergurlek · 07-23-10, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by quicksylver

http://wow.curseforge.com/announceme...lysm-beta-key/

wow.curseforge.com is also affected by the same thing... So they're basically in the same boat as us.

That's a quote from Blizzard by the way. So now at least we know they are working on it

Hope you guys get your keys working soon

**Seerah** · 07-23-10, 11:15 AM

I would like to thank everyone for refraining from posting links or instructions *ahem* on obtaining illegitimate downloads of the beta client. So glad that our warning was heeded.

Icecoldcoke · 07-23-10, 11:16 AM

The quote from Blizzard definitely makes it seem like our keys won't be fixed today.

But I suppose that's always how they word things so no one is like "BUT YOU SAID..."

Kaidian · 07-23-10, 11:35 AM

Re launch the old battle.net site on a different URL to allow the keys to be redeemed.

How. Hard. Is. That?

Both existed for the last week quite happily anyway...

Geneticus · 07-23-10, 11:39 AM

I seriously doubt the key issue is coding related, it's more likely DB related.
Why I say this is:

Back in the day it was possible, given enough product keys, to reverse engineer the(or a portion of) base key and create a key generator that would allow you to unlock software from Windows, to games, to apps.
Eventually companies started logging the keys they generated and released for distribution, to prevent key generators from working on non released keys.

My theory is that they need to add the list of newly generated keys to bnet in order for them to be recognized as valid. This is probably a fairly simple db update, but they are also probably tracking other things associated with keys like curse vs wowi and some other things. I guess in a sense it's a coding issue since someone has to write the query to import the list, but for whatever reason it has to be manually added to the db and that takes a human.
More importantly it takes a human with the time in between the daily meetings "Should Semprini be a banned word" and "Why do the second floor toilets take more flushes then the 1st floor ones? - Did we break Gravity?"

It is also possible that the Key problems are caused by a vaccine(Jenny McCarthy's Beta Key) or Obama broke the key system when he faked his birth certificate.

Point is it doesn't matter what we think is the cause. It is what it is, and it will be fixed when it's fixed. In the mean time go outside and let your body soak up some natural light(not the beer).

GT4 · 07-23-10, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Geneticus

I seriously doubt the key issue is coding related, it's more likely DB related.
Why I say this is:

Back in the day it was possible, given enough product keys, to reverse engineer the(or a portion of) base key and create a key generator that would allow you to unlock software from Windows, to games, to apps.
Eventually companies started logging the keys they generated and released for distribution, to prevent key generators from working on non released keys.

My theory is that they need to add the list of newly generated keys to bnet in order for them to be recognized as valid. This is probably a fairly simple db update, but they are also probably tracking other things associated with keys like curse vs wowi and some other things. I guess in a sense it's a coding issue since someone has to write the query to import the list, but for whatever reason it has to be manually added to the db and that takes a human.
More importantly it takes a human with the time in between the daily meetings "Should Semprini be a banned word" and "Why do the second floor toilets take more flushes then the 1st floor ones? - Did we break Gravity?"

It is also possible that the Key problems are caused by a vaccine(Jenny McCarthy's Beta Key) or Obama broke the key system when he faked his birth certificate.

Point is it doesn't matter what we think is the cause. It is what it is, and it will be fixed when it's fixed. In the mean time go outside and let your body soak up some natural light(not the beer).

This doesn't make sense on so many levels.
What we know:
There haven't been any issues with keys a week ago.
In the last week, a new Battle.net site was published.
The new Battle.net site gives you an error that the key is no game key but an item key. This is not the standard error since when you enter a random 26 digits key it just says the key is not valid.
Blizzard stated the problem lies within Battle.net problems and not the keys themselves.
(Common sense tells you that Blizzard would properly enter the keys into the database before sending them. Otherwise we wouldn't have needed to wait so long for new keys because generating the alphanumeric codes doesn't take any significant amount of time.)

The most logical conclusion is that either the site is coded wrongly not to accept 25 digit keys as game keys or there is some other issue either in the new Battle.net code itself or the database connection.