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Garou · 03-10-07, 07:46 PM

Mazzle,

What a great addon, thank you to you and your crew for all of the hard work you have put into this. The addon is working fine for me however when I suggested it to my sister she is having a problem with the setup.

Autobar is throwing an error everytime just as she finishes the mazzification.

Here is the error from bugsack(I will try attaching a screenshot also).

1 {x2} AutoBar-2.00.00.29 beta\Core.lua1267:attempt to index field '?' {a nil value}

We have tried it on several characters, but mostly her level 70 hunter. Here are the settings we are choosing.

Video settings are 1.33
Level 70 Troll Hunter
Basic Button Layout
No extra addons

I hope that you can help we are trying to remazzify without that addon at this point.

Thank you again for such a great compilation.

Mazzlefizz · 03-10-07, 10:46 PM

You can try simply unchecking Autobar from the list of add-ons that will be Mazzified. If that doesn't work, try disabling Autobar until you're done mazzifying. If you do the latter, you'll need to configure and position the add-on yourself.

And I don't know why you're setup would be different from everyone else's (including your other one), causing you to get an error. My guess is you either didn't do a clean install as per the instructions or you have some updated add-ons with libraries that may be conflicting with the version included in the MazzleUI download.

moondoggy · 03-11-07, 12:31 AM

not sure if its been discussed but didnt see this problem in the bugs list either.i think it's part of cartographer dealing with the big red arrow on screen.almost every time i die now instead of an arrow pointing to my body(at least i think thats what use to be there if i remember correctly) i get a "scrambled" white box in middle of screen and it stays there until i log out.any solutions or something i missed already?

T.I.A.

Thardon · 03-11-07, 01:35 AM

Mazzle -

Your answer seems obtuse and confusing for Sabrynn's issues.

Since so many shapechanging characters seem to have issues with Bongos, perhaps it's an issue with Bongos and you can replace it with something better? No I haven't experimented with bar changers galore, and yes I've had similar (although not as persistent) pain with Bongos as well -- mainly in catforms and stealth in catform.

Just seems that quite a few folks have been complaining and the "what other people suggested works" answer (i.e. the answers might be somewhere in the 400 pages of forums -- search for bongos) seems a bit rough around the edges...

Let's try this -- fix his problem and I'll donate $25 to your meal fund :-)

- Thardon

Garou · 03-11-07, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mazzlefizz

You can try simply unchecking Autobar from the list of add-ons that will be Mazzified. If that doesn't work, try disabling Autobar until you're done mazzifying. If you do the latter, you'll need to configure and position the add-on yourself.

And I don't know why you're setup would be different from everyone else's (including your other one), causing you to get an error. My guess is you either didn't do a clean install as per the instructions or you have some updated add-ons with libraries that may be conflicting with the version included in the MazzleUI download.

This would seem like the obvious answer, and indeed we have tried all of this. I am able to get her interface running by undoing deselecting autobar, however when we do this ORA gives an error. Sorry did not get a screen of that. With both ora and autobar disabled she is running just fine. We have tried adding back autobar with ora disabled and it still errors.

She has no additional addons installed, and at the times of the testing we were deleting both the wtf and interface directories after each test.

She really wanted to play last night so she was not interested in futher testing I will have to see if I can get her to play around with it more. Thank you for such a prompt response.

Mazzlefizz · 03-11-07, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Thardon

Let's try this -- fix his problem and I'll donate $25 to your meal fund :-)

No, let's try this. Keep your money and stop reminding me how self-serving and critical much of the WoW community is. It's the reason that I drastically cut down the time I spend on this project. If you don't want to give back, don't. Comments like that are just insulting.

Mazzlefizz · 03-11-07, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Garou

This would seem like the obvious answer, and indeed we have tried all of this. I am able to get her interface running by undoing deselecting autobar, however when we do this ORA gives an error. Sorry did not get a screen of that. With both ora and autobar disabled she is running just fine. We have tried adding back autobar with ora disabled and it still errors.

She has no additional addons installed, and at the times of the testing we were deleting both the wtf and interface directories after each test.

She really wanted to play last night so she was not interested in futher testing I will have to see if I can get her to play around with it more. Thank you for such a prompt response.

Without being able to recreate the issue, it's hard for me to say anything more helpful. If you truly did a clean install with no libraries or add-ons updated and nothing added, then I'm not sure what's going on. The fact that you subsequently get an error with oRA (an add-on that really has no relation to Autobar and an add-on that nobody else has reported problems with) suggests to me either there was a shared library updated or that the Mazzification did not properly complete.

btw, when you post an error, you should click on it and post the full error, not just the little blurb in the menu. I'd also post what this oRA error is.

Mazzlefizz · 03-11-07, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by moondoggy

not sure if its been discussed but didnt see this problem in the bugs list either.i think it's part of cartographer dealing with the big red arrow on screen.almost every time i die now instead of an arrow pointing to my body(at least i think thats what use to be there if i remember correctly) i get a "scrambled" white box in middle of screen and it stays there until i log out.any solutions or something i missed already?

T.I.A.

Sounds like you updated Cartographer. At some point, they rolled in a corpose waypoint module into the main add-on. Try deleting the add-on that's called Cartographer CorpseWaypoint or something like that.

Thardon · 03-11-07, 04:04 PM

As someone who has tried this set of UI packages on every type of character up to this point, it's worked *fantastic* but this seems to be a consistent issue with several of us.

So how can we help you get more information to figure this out? Is there debug options for bongos we can enable? Profiling information we can provide? Since your comments in the forums recommend *against* replacing Bongos with any updates, how can we better provide you info to enable a better fix?

We do want to give back, but tell us what you need to help resolve this -- the things that Sabrynn and others have tried from the forums suggestions have not resolved it and we'd like to know where to go next since you know the Bongos stuff the best here...

Thoughts?

- Thardon

Thardon · 03-11-07, 04:29 PM

And the comment wasn't meant to be insulting, but encouraging -- you do good work here and I want to see it continue (hence the offer of food!).

Apologies if it came off snarky or insulting -- that was not the intent...

- Thardon

moondoggy · 03-11-07, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mazzlefizz

Sounds like you updated Cartographer. At some point, they rolled in a corpose waypoint module into the main add-on. Try deleting the add-on that's called Cartographer CorpseWaypoint or something like that.

yes i do update all the ace addons and thank you for your reply,i will try that!

Arkive · 03-12-07, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Thardon

As someone who has tried this set of UI packages on every type of character up to this point, it's worked *fantastic* but this seems to be a consistent issue with several of us.

So how can we help you get more information to figure this out? Is there debug options for bongos we can enable? Profiling information we can provide? Since your comments in the forums recommend *against* replacing Bongos with any updates, how can we better provide you info to enable a better fix?

We do want to give back, but tell us what you need to help resolve this -- the things that Sabrynn and others have tried from the forums suggestions have not resolved it and we'd like to know where to go next since you know the Bongos stuff the best here...

Thoughts?

- Thardon

Correct me if I'm wrong Mazzle, but while the Mazzification process and whatnot has a requirement for Bongos, the functioning of the UI itself does not. At first glance, I don't see why you couldn't replace Bongos with another button addon after you finished Mazzifying (understaning of course that any future Mazzification that had anything to do with buttons would probably fail miserably).

Garou · 03-12-07, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by Mazzlefizz

Without being able to recreate the issue, it's hard for me to say anything more helpful. If you truly did a clean install with no libraries or add-ons updated and nothing added, then I'm not sure what's going on. The fact that you subsequently get an error with oRA (an add-on that really has no relation to Autobar and an add-on that nobody else has reported problems with) suggests to me either there was a shared library updated or that the Mazzification did not properly complete.

btw, when you post an error, you should click on it and post the full error, not just the little blurb in the menu. I'd also post what this oRA error is.

Thanks for the info on the error within bugsack. Since she is in UT and I am in FL I am doing my best to gather data and get it to you. Thank you for taking so much time answering. I will see if I can get her to do that. As an aside we are both doing the exact same installs of mazzle, but they behave differently (although mine is on a 68 mage not a 70 hunter. Both with simple setup for the bars. When her mazzifcation completes ALL of the addons (which is what we both select) are enabled, however on my install some are not (damage meters, the threat meter one and about 6 others baggins for one). I am thinking of looking at what is disabled on mine and having her disable those and remazzify. Do you think this would be helpful or a waste of time

Thanks again

Mazzlefizz · 03-13-07, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Garou

Thanks for the info on the error within bugsack. Since she is in UT and I am in FL I am doing my best to gather data and get it to you. Thank you for taking so much time answering. I will see if I can get her to do that. As an aside we are both doing the exact same installs of mazzle, but they behave differently (although mine is on a 68 mage not a 70 hunter. Both with simple setup for the bars. When her mazzifcation completes ALL of the addons (which is what we both select) are enabled, however on my install some are not (damage meters, the threat meter one and about 6 others baggins for one). I am thinking of looking at what is disabled on mine and having her disable those and remazzify. Do you think this would be helpful or a waste of time

Thanks again

Damage and threat meters are based purely on the corresponding questions you answer about them. If it ends up disabled on one computer, but not disabled on another, one of two things is happening. You're either answering the questions differently on the two machines or you're getting an error of some sort on one maching when Mazzifying that prevents it from getting to the phase where it enables and disables add-ons. If it's the latter, you need to find that error and post it.

Mazzlefizz · 03-13-07, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Arkive

Correct me if I'm wrong Mazzle, but while the Mazzification process and whatnot has a requirement for Bongos, the functioning of the UI itself does not. At first glance, I don't see why you couldn't replace Bongos with another button addon after you finished Mazzifying (understaning of course that any future Mazzification that had anything to do with buttons would probably fail miserably).

You should be able to substitute a different button add-on. While you'd lose all the benefits of the button stuff in the Mazzifier, it shouldn't break anything. If something does break (like Mazzifications or something during play), that's something I'd report as a bug. It's not an intended limitation.

Mazzlefizz · 03-13-07, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Thardon

As someone who has tried this set of UI packages on every type of character up to this point, it's worked *fantastic* but this seems to be a consistent issue with several of us.

So how can we help you get more information to figure this out? Is there debug options for bongos we can enable? Profiling information we can provide? Since your comments in the forums recommend *against* replacing Bongos with any updates, how can we better provide you info to enable a better fix?

We do want to give back, but tell us what you need to help resolve this -- the things that Sabrynn and others have tried from the forums suggestions have not resolved it and we'd like to know where to go next since you know the Bongos stuff the best here...

Thoughts?

- Thardon

There are no debug modes for those add-ons that I know of. Since there are no actual errors being thrown, there's not much you can contribute in this regard unless you can dig into the bongos code to figure out what's becoming inconsistent. At this point, the only thing you can really provide is a concrete and precise way to recreate the issue on a perfectly clean install. The only shifting classes I have readily available to me are a 30 warrior and 45 rogue.

And when I was talking about giving back, I was referring to your comment about donations, not giving back debug info.

Lethalweapon · 03-13-07, 02:00 PM

Any reason why on my mage I did full install and I only have 2 action bars with one slot.

meio · 03-13-07, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lethalweapon

Any reason why on my mage I did full install and I only have 2 action bars with one slot.

Nope... but more information would be a bit more helpful.

Originally Posted by Mazzlefizz

I encourage you to verify problems other people have posted, adding more information from your experiences if possible. Also, be precise and thorough in your posts. Things you should include:

Description of what happened and what led to it. What mazzifier settings you used, if applicable.
If there's an error message, the exact error. You can click on the bugsack icon to get the full error. Simple cut and paste it from that window into your bug report.
Your aspect ratio or resolution
Class, level, race
Which button layout you chose (if it has to do with buttons)
Any extra add-ons you may be using
A screenshot, if applicable

amz370 · 03-13-07, 09:26 PM

ok so ocasionaly (about 20-30% of the time) i get a tool tip that extends across the entire width of my screen in the center of my mazzle bottum bar

really anoying, tried reloading tinytip, quickting, re mazzifying tinytip etc

any ideas

im gonan try deleting my tiny tip wtf adn going and re mazzing

Mazzlefizz · 03-13-07, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by amz370

ok so ocasionaly (about 20-30% of the time) i get a tool tip that extends across the entire width of my screen in the center of my mazzle bottum bar

really anoying, tried reloading tinytip, quickting, re mazzifying tinytip etc

any ideas

im gonan try deleting my tiny tip wtf adn going and re mazzing

The vast majority of add-ons do something with tooltips. Any of them could be the problem. Since other people haven't reported this, I'd suggest looking at add-ons you've added or things you've updated.