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01-12-10, 09:16 AM   #1
SergOK
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Usability suggestions

First let me say this is an awesome addon that approaches the problem in a very systematic and thoughtful way. I really like it.

Now a few things I've noticed which I think need improvement:

1. Range

The precision is insufficient. I get "0-10", "10-30", etc. readings which are useless for a melee class, especially for a rogue. Please fix so that the readings are "0-5", "5-10", "10-15", '15-20", "20-25", "25-30", and from this point on as you feel like, with 10 or 20 yard steps.

2. HUD percentage text

Please consider an option for switching display of health and power percentage indicators off. There are maximum 8 percentage indicators, which is a lot of numbers being displayed on the screen. For many classes they are quite useless as they don't really need to know exact percentage of relative health or power, having the awesome bars to judge about relative health and power is quite enough. Providing option of switching off percentage indicators is a small change with a big benefit.

3. Text positions

nUI is lacking in the customization of text position. What I would love to have is Range and current Power (Energy/Mana/Runic) display right next to my character because these are crucial pieces of information for my rogue. Right now I use IceHud that allows positioning text on the screen. Would be great to have the ability in nUI to move HUD text around.

4. This seems like a bug - player buff icons (both with Aura button addon and without) seem to be overlaid with some green stuff so that the icons look greenish.
 
01-12-10, 09:31 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by SergOK View Post
First let me say this is an awesome addon that approaches the problem in a very systematic and thoughtful way. I really like it.

Now a few things I've noticed which I think need improvement:

1. Range

The precision is insufficient. I get "0-10", "10-30", etc. readings which are useless for a melee class, especially for a rogue. Please fix so that the readings are "0-5", "5-10", "10-15", '15-20", "20-25", "25-30", and from this point on as you feel like, with 10 or 20 yard steps.

Unfortunately range is based on testing for ability range access so we are limited with what ranges they have to test for.

2. HUD percentage text

Please consider an option for switching display of health and power percentage indicators off. There are maximum 8 percentage indicators, which is a lot of numbers being displayed on the screen. For many classes they are quite useless as they don't really need to know exact percentage of relative health or power, having the awesome bars to judge about relative health and power is quite enough. Providing option of switching off percentage indicators is a small change with a big benefit.

I am quite sure if you take a look at the Layout folder you will see a set of layout files for your specific HUD and several enable flags that can be turned off as per your choice. Try them out and see if that resolves this issue for you.

3. Text positions

nUI is lacking in the customization of text position. What I would love to have is Range and current Power (Energy/Mana/Runic) display right next to my character because these are crucial pieces of information for my rogue. Right now I use IceHud that allows positioning text on the screen. Would be great to have the ability in nUI to move HUD text around.

See above as location anchors of several movable parts of the layout can be tweaked as well.

4. This seems like a bug - player buff icons (both with Aura button addon and without) seem to be overlaid with some green stuff so that the icons look greenish.

I think the coloring is based on who cast that buff. I could be wrong though, but I am sure I read that somewhere here.
That said, nUI 6 is being designed with more flexibility in mind as I am sure that Scott didn't realise the amount of changes that people would request would vary so much at the time he created nUI 5.
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01-12-10, 11:07 AM   #3
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Just to elaborate a bit on Xrystal's very accurate replies...

The range calculate is the "best" is possibly can be. Blizzard very purposely does not allow addons to determine exact range to target, or even party members (though it's easier to infer distance to party members).

The only way to determine range to a target (or another player) is to determine which spells you can apply to the target and of the spells you can apply, which ones are "in range" -- based on that, you can use the min and max range for each of those in-range spells to infer the target is somewhere between two values. It simply is not possible to be any more accurate than that and Blizzard will go a *long* way out of its way to make sure it stays that way.

HUD percentage text is easily turned off as Xrystal already pointed out. Also, there's a plugin you can grab from the "nUI: HUD Designs" section at http://files.nUIaddon.com that you can use to remove all text from the HUD.
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01-12-10, 02:48 PM   #4
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Another thing to point out as your a new user and this slips by quite a few people is that the hud has three different settings:
-Player/Target- which is the default

-Health/Power- Which puts your own and your targets health on the left and your own and their mana on the right

-Simple Hud- Which removes and the health and the power bars leaving a health race bar(there is a description of what that is in the faq section) the cooldown bar and the debuffs.

As xrystal said all three of those hud are edited pretty easily from the lua files. And all or most of it will be configurable from ingame gui once scott finishes 6.0
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01-12-10, 03:55 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I have actually read entire documentation and experimented with nUI in game, I feel quite comfortable with the different modes / configuration and understand them well.

I've switched off percentage text display in the lua files by disabling "pct_health" and "pct_power" elements. I've actually created my own HUD plugin by copying some original files (I looked up how nUI: Textless HUD was done) and made modifications in my plugin so that I don't change original nUI code. I made some other modifications in my plugin too, they work fine so I've managed to solve my "text problems.

Regarding range - I understand your comments but I've been using IceHud addon for quite long time for this specific purpose and it works fine, it determines range with 5 yard precision up to 40 - 50 yards, so there probably is some way.

One thing that annoys me right now is the strange way the HUD bars update - they don't update smoothly but rather in some "jerks". It's like the bar updates once in a sec or two. I've tried /nui framerate command but it does not change it (it changes icon update rate though). It's also not other addons problem because that was from the very beginning with the clean install. I've watched the movie in the gallery section and the bars seem to update fine in the movie. Is this some kind of bug in the latest nUI_5.06.07_Plus.zip?
 
01-12-10, 04:27 PM   #6
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Looks like ice hud is using LibRangeCheck to determine ranges.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...check-2-0.aspx

Ahh something new for you to look at Scott.


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