Fonts, please please please

[Hambil]

I looked at the current todo list and it doesn't included changing/resizing fonts. I've tried everything (all resolutions, ui scale, etc.) and I am not being over dramatic when I say that without some way to improve/enlarge the fonts this addon is just not usable to me I literally can't read things. I even tried hand editing the lua files, but, that just created a mess.

[spiel2001]

Sizing the font's depends on the object you're trying to size. There is a FAQ on the subject at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21010

If the object in question is the unit frames or the HUD then the can be fixed by editing the appropriate layout file in [ Interface > AddOns > nUI > Layouts > Default ] or the chat frame can be fixed by using the chat settings interface built into WoW. If the problem is the action bars, you're pretty much screwed as there's no fix for that at this time because the text size is tied to the button size.

For the most part, nUI is designed for use on a 17-22" monitor. Smaller than that and everything it too small, larger than that, it is too big.

[Xrystal]

Oh, Scott, is changing the type of font to use one of the things you will incorporate as changeable in game ?

If not I was wondering if having say a plugin that utilises Shared Media for those that use it to bring up a selection of fonts and then allow the user to change the 2 fonts you have set aside.

I've done it manually so far to see how my favorite (Emblem) font looks but I can see several questions regarding fonts and was wondering if that change will help alleviate things by allowing them to pick a font that is visibly clearer while not necessarily being bigger.

[spiel2001]

Originally Posted by Xrystal Oh, Scott, is changing the type of font to use one of the things you will incorporate as changeable in game ? If not I was wondering if having say a plugin that utilises Shared Media for those that use it to bring up a selection of fonts and then allow the user to change the 2 fonts you have set aside. I've done it manually so far to see how my favorite (Emblem) font looks but I can see several questions regarding fonts and was wondering if that change will help alleviate things by allowing them to pick a font that is visibly clearer while not necessarily being bigger.

Well... it is intended that people be able to change the font using the nUI_L["font1"] and nUI_L["font2"] values, but I hadn't given much thought to expanding on the theme any further than that. It would be possible to allow for a "font = " argument in the the layout tables on an element by element basis to overload the default main font.

[Hambil]

Originally Posted by spiel2001 Sizing the font's depends on the object you're trying to size. There is a FAQ on the subject at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21010 If the object in question is the unit frames or the HUD then the can be fixed by editing the appropriate layout file in [ Interface > AddOns > nUI > Layouts > Default ] or the chat frame can be fixed by using the chat settings interface built into WoW. If the problem is the action bars, you're pretty much screwed as there's no fix for that at this time because the text size is tied to the button size. For the most part, nUI is designed for use on a 17-22" monitor. Smaller than that and everything it too small, larger than that, it is too big.

My biggest problem is the built in nUI buttons, e.g. "Player". "Stats". "Player/Target" pretty much anything on a square red nUI button is almost totally unreadable to me.

[spiel2001]

Originally Posted by Hambil My biggest problem is the built in nUI buttons, e.g. "Player". "Stats". "Player/Target" pretty much anything on a square red nUI button is almost totally unreadable to me.

Hambil -- what resolution are you playing at and on what size display? If those are blurry, odds are it's because you're playing on a low resolution scaled on a mid-size monitor... those are actually quite readable even on a 17" monitor unless your resolution is very low (which causes a lot of blurring in the graphics when scaled to fit the monitor).

[Terraan]

I have found I can use ClearFonts2 and some of the fonts are changed to Calibri on say Bag Item counts, and some quest logs, names above people's heads...but my chat seems small and squished, and some fonts are kind of unusual in size throughout nUI except on the HUD, the HUD looks fine.


I'm using 21" Widescreen w/ 1440 x 900 -- 24 bit color. Not sure if it might be because of the widescreen, but I've just found that the fonts look tall and thin, and sometimes hard to read.

Is there some way we can change it to have nUI not handle the font sizing?

[spiel2001]

Originally Posted by Terraan Is there some way we can change it to have nUI not handle the font sizing?

o.O

Ummm.... how can nUI not handle the fonts in the elements it displays?

As for the chat font... have you tried using the chat settings to change the font size?

[havoxx]

Originally Posted by Terraan I have found I can use ClearFonts2 and some of the fonts are changed to Calibri on say Bag Item counts, and some quest logs, names above people's heads...but my chat seems small and squished, and some fonts are kind of unusual in size throughout nUI except on the HUD, the HUD looks fine. I'm using 21" Widescreen w/ 1440 x 900 -- 24 bit color. Not sure if it might be because of the widescreen, but I've just found that the fonts look tall and thin, and sometimes hard to read. Is there some way we can change it to have nUI not handle the font sizing?

Isn't a 21" widescreen supposed to use 1680x1050? Monitors, especially widescreens and LCD's distort the hell out of an image if it's not at their recommended resolution. If you are getting tall fonts, this is most likely your issue, you are using a a different resolution than your monitor asks for.

I have -8.5 vision, with astigmatism, so I know if the fonts look like crap, and in this case, I don't think you guys are having an nUI issue, you might want to try changing the font, as outlined here. I use segoeUI for my fonts, and honestly, I never have an issue, and if you look at my textbox, I can't see very well at all. The key is finding the font your eyes are comfortable with, and WoW's default fonts blow, so changing them, as far as I believe, is neccesary.

A basic outline of how to change the fonts in WoW. Read up on the ClearFont2 links for more details. 1. Make a folder called Fonts 2. Put folder in the following directory structure: C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Fonts\ 3. Find font(s) you want. 4. Change font name(s): Find four different fonts, or create four copies of the font file of your choice, place them in the above folder, and rename them to the following names: ● FRIZQT__.ttf (the main UI font: NPCs names; buffs, etc) ● ARIALN.ttf (the normal number font) ● skurri.ttf (the 'huge' number font) ● MORPHEUS.ttf (Mail, Quest Log font) 5. Put those renamed fonts in the Fonts folder 6. Log in. Enjoy. Note: .TTC fonts will not work with WoW. They need to be converted into .TTF fonts for them to be recognized and read by WoW.

taken from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...02350234&sid=1

[Petrah]

Originally Posted by Terraan I'm using 21" Widescreen w/ 1440 x 900 -- 24 bit color. Not sure if it might be because of the widescreen, but I've just found that the fonts look tall and thin, and sometimes hard to read.

Havoxx is correct here. Flatpanel screens are supposed to use their native resolution. Anything other than that will reproduce icky results. I believe you should be at 1680x1050 for a 21 inch widescreen.

[Hambil]

Originally Posted by spiel2001 Hambil -- what resolution are you playing at and on what size display? If those are blurry, odds are it's because you're playing on a low resolution scaled on a mid-size monitor... those are actually quite readable even on a 17" monitor unless your resolution is very low (which causes a lot of blurring in the graphics when scaled to fit the monitor).

17" monitor in 1280x1024 mode with 24 bit color. I've attached a screen cap, and you can see the nUI fonts are pretty hard to read. Lower resolutions (1024x768) just makes it worse.

[spiel2001]

Originally Posted by Hambil 17" monitor in 1280x1024 mode with 24 bit color. I've attached a screen cap, and you can see the nUI fonts are pretty hard to read. Lower resolutions (1024x768) just makes it worse.

Well... this is kind of the classic "I know it's not perfect, but I don't have a solution to make it better" kind of things. The issue is how Bliz renders the fonts with outlines. If I don't use an outline, it's worse because there's no contrast. If I do use an outline, the outline doesn't scale with the font and you get bleed over. I can't make the font any larger, or the text will flow outside of the widget. If I make the widget bigger, everyone yells at me that the button is too large.

I'm all about solutions, but I honestly don't have one that I can think of atm for that particular problem.