nUI -- A full feature standalone UI replacement - Page 117

spiel2001 · 01-10-09, 07:22 PM

Weren't we in general agreement that everything is Bliz's fault?

*confused look*

Originally Posted by spiritwulf

Isnt that what i said? hehehe
Dealing with dead spots when using clique is nothing new, ive been dealing with it ever since it came out, you just get used to it.
Thanks for the detailed explanation though. And it is once again blizzards fault, snicker.

Kodewulf · 01-11-09, 01:03 AM

Just a quick update on some of the optional downloads for nUI.

nUI: Integration [ButtonFacade] has been rewritten and now works with the newest version of ButtonFacade.

nUI: Config [GUI] has been updated and it seems all the external libraries are now loading properly.

nUI: Integration [NinjaPanel] anchors the nUI top console to NinjaPanel.

nUI: Config [ChatFrame] now saves the justification and font-size per character and also integrates with nUI: Config [GUI].

nUI: Config [Colors] allows you to change some colors in nUI using slash commands or nUI: Config [GUI].

Coming Soon
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Better HitsMode integration for nUI: Integration [HitsMode] to allow for more than one HitsMode window and also recognising HitsMode in other chatframes.

trashi · 01-11-09, 03:51 AM

Hallo,

maybe anyone could explane me the use of the petfeed button, if i klick on the pet happines picture which shows <hier drücken um unbekannt zu essen> (german client, i think this would show <press here to feed pet> on english client) nothing happens.

Wavebow · 01-11-09, 03:57 AM

Hi Scott,

played a while with nUI now and want to let you know about a few things that I am recognized.

- The click-to-feed hunter pet happiness indicator on unit frames does not work for me. I clicked it but nothing happens.
- The active tracking abilitiy (hunters) does not show anywhere. Would it be possible to show it like (de)buffs are shown?
- The bar that indicates the breath when diving is not shown for me.

Besides that, nUI is the best/most compact/most complete UI I've used so far.

Greetings Wavebow

spiel2001 · 01-11-09, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by trashi

Hallo,

maybe anyone could explane me the use of the petfeed button, if i klick on the pet happines picture which shows <hier drücken um unbekannt zu essen> (german client, i think this would show <press here to feed pet> on english client) nothing happens.

Which version of nUI are you running? 4.08 or higher? There was a bug in the pet feeder that caused the button in the pet unit frame to be unclickable which was fixed in the 4.08 release.

Otherwise, this might be something related to the German localization files.

nUI will tell you which version is loaded when you log in... let me know which version you have.

spiel2001 · 01-11-09, 10:08 AM

Wavebow --

The same question(s) to you as to Trashi in my prior post... which version of nUI do you have installed? Are you playing on a US realm or Oceanic?

You are correct, the active tracking mode is shown only on/in the tracking button on the minimap. I honestly had never given any thought to showing it anywhere else. *ponders that one a bit*

nUI does not manage that bar, so I'm honestly unsure why it is not being displayed. Does this problem occur on just one of your toons, or all of them? If it is all of them, then I'm pretty certain it's not nUI. If it is just one of them, then it is possible your nUI movers has confused it, but not likely.

Again, just to be sure the problem is or is not nUI, go find a nice quite pond somplace, disable all of your mods EXCEPT nUI and jump in... is the bar there? If it is, start enabling your other mods until it goes away and then we'll know which mod is doing it. If it isn't, then disable nUI and jump in the pond again, is the bar there now?

If not, there's a bigger problem. If it is, then I would suggest starting by exiting WoW and deleting the file [ World of Warcraft > WTF > Account > {your account} > {your realm} > {character name} > SavedVariables > nUI.lua ] and then log back into WoW and jump in the pond again... did the bar come back now?

Originally Posted by Wavebow

Hi Scott,

played a while with nUI now and want to let you know about a few things that I am recognized.

- The click-to-feed hunter pet happiness indicator on unit frames does not work for me. I clicked it but nothing happens.
- The active tracking abilitiy (hunters) does not show anywhere. Would it be possible to show it like (de)buffs are shown?
- The bar that indicates the breath when diving is not shown for me.

Besides that, nUI is the best/most compact/most complete UI I've used so far.

Greetings Wavebow

spiel2001 · 01-11-09, 10:23 AM

Is anyone aware of vehicle based quests or activities where they NEED the Bliz vehicle menu bar?

I have done a ton of quests now that use vehicles (my month old hunter is level 76 now) and so far the only one I found that needed the pitch controls was the cannon quest in the DK starting area, I have yet to have found another one that even showed the pitch controls on the vehicle bar.

The only other feature of the vehicle bar I am aware of but have not implemented is the seats for other passengers in multiple passenger vehicles. Can anyone point me to a quest or activity that uses them and, better still, explain to me what purpose (if any) they serve?

I'm very seriously thinking about going ahead and hiding the Bliz vehicle frame as it seems to me that nUI is employing enough of the functionality that the Bliz frame really just isn't needed anymore.

Any and all feedback on issues, ideas, suggestions, etc. regarding vehicles and nUI would be deeply appreciated.

Wavebow · 01-11-09, 10:36 AM

Hi Scott,

thanks for the taking you time and going into it.

The same question(s) to you as to Trashi in my prior post... which version of nUI do you have installed? Are you playing on a US realm or Oceanic?

I have installed version 4.10

You are correct, the active tracking mode is shown only on/in the tracking button on the minimap. I honestly had never given any thought to showing it anywhere else. *ponders that one a bit*

Ok. Thought nUI manages the tracking mode. I somehow have turend off the minimap icon and could not see the active mode. Maybe I should first figure out how to turn the icon on again. At the moment, I use ElkBuffBars to show the tracking mode. EDIT: ElkBuffBars turned the mm-icon off... doh. I turned ElkBuffBars off and now it shows up again.

nUI does not manage that bar, so I'm honestly unsure why it is not being displayed. Does this problem occur on just one of your toons, or all of them? If it is all of them, then I'm pretty certain it's not nUI. If it is just one of them, then it is possible your nUI movers has confused it, but not likely.

If nUI does not manage this bar, than it is ok. I thought nUI manages this bar. Actually I have installed eCastingBars to show it. I made it so that it melts with nUI and shows up the same way that nUI shows the castingbar on the uinitframe.

What is still not working for me is to click the pet happiness icon to feed my pet. Still nothing happens.

Greetings wavebow

trashi · 01-11-09, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Which version of nUI are you running? 4.08 or higher? There was a bug in the pet feeder that caused the button in the pet unit frame to be unclickable which was fixed in the 4.08 release.

I'm running also 4.10

spiel2001 · 01-11-09, 12:39 PM

Wavebow and Trashi --

To be clear, you both have food in your bags that your pet will eat and you are clicking on the pet feeder button when you are not in combat right?

When you click on the button, you do not get a pet feeder window at all, or you get an empty window?

Are you getting any error messages of any kind when you click on the pet happiness icon, or does virtually nothing happen?

Wavebow... you didn't answer the question about US realm or Oceanic realm... if you are both on Oceanic, there may be an issue there I need to look into.

iljott · 01-11-09, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Is anyone aware of vehicle based quests or activities where they NEED the Bliz vehicle menu bar?

I have done a ton of quests now that use vehicles (my month old hunter is level 76 now) and so far the only one I found that needed the pitch controls was the cannon quest in the DK starting area, I have yet to have found another one that even showed the pitch controls on the vehicle bar.

The only other feature of the vehicle bar I am aware of but have not implemented is the seats for other passengers in multiple passenger vehicles. Can anyone point me to a quest or activity that uses them and, better still, explain to me what purpose (if any) they serve?

I'm very seriously thinking about going ahead and hiding the Bliz vehicle frame as it seems to me that nUI is employing enough of the functionality that the Bliz frame really just isn't needed anymore.

Any and all feedback on issues, ideas, suggestions, etc. regarding vehicles and nUI would be deeply appreciated.

While I've never done any of the Wintergrasp quests, you might get lucky there. Perhaps a more PvP oriented person here can help out...

Also, if I'm not mistaken, there is also another quest which uses the vehicle pitch buttons in Borean Tundra. The name of the quest is "The Plains of Nasam" and it is given by Gorge the Corpsegrinder (found at 32,54 in Borean Tundra). The quest is only lvl 71, and you can obtain it at lvl 68.

There also might be another quest which I recall near Venomspite in Dragonblight. The quest is called "Spread the Good Word" and is given to you by Chief Plaguebringer Middleton (found at 77.7, 62.7). It's a lvl 72 quest which can be obtained at lvl 71. I cannot remember 100% if you could control the pitch of the vehicle as it's been a while since I've done it, but if I'm not mistaken you do control them.

Hope this helps Spiel!

trashi · 01-11-09, 02:29 PM

Yes there is usable food in the inventory but after pressing the petfeedkey no window ore else comes up, also no errormsg.

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Wavebow and Trashi --

To be clear, you both have food in your bags that your pet will eat and you are clicking on the pet feeder button when you are not in combat right?

When you click on the button, you do not get a pet feeder window at all, or you get an empty window?

Are you getting any error messages of any kind when you click on the pet happiness icon, or does virtually nothing happen?

Wavebow... you didn't answer the question about US realm or Oceanic realm... if you are both on Oceanic, there may be an issue there I need to look into.

spiel2001 · 01-11-09, 03:41 PM

This beta contains lots of little fixes, tweaks and enhancements... too many to cover here, so please read the patch notes provided below.

One key point to mention: in this update the Interface\AddOns\nUI\AddOns folder has been moved to Interface\AddOns\nUI\Plugins due to a compatibility problem with WoW Interface's offline installer (WOWI) -- Users *should* be able to use WOWI to install and update nUI now, but I don't know that for a fact as I do not use offline installers

For those of you having issues with being able to click the hunter pet happiness button to feed your pet, I made a couple of quiet behind the scenes tweaks to how the clicks are processed now. Please let me know if it is working for you. (Previously you had to left click to feed you pet, it should access any mouse click now)

As always, please report any bugs you come across at the official support site at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=16845 if at all possible. Otherwise, bugs can be reported on any of the nUI comment boards or via direct e-mail to me at [email protected]

The current release is (or will be) available for download at any of the following locations...

My continued thanks to everyone for their support!

How you can help support nUI's continued development: I am currently trying to recover from 14 months of unemployment and with over $20,000 in debt (unpaid mortgage payments, loans, etc.), every penny makes a serious difference. Your contribution of $5, $10, $20 or more to support the ongoing development of nUI would be greatly appreciated. Click here to make a donation now, please?!

Lastly, please vote for nUI and add it to your favorites list... it helps nUI get more exposure. Thanks for your support!

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Version 4.11.00 (Beta)
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* Moved Interface\AddOns\nUI\AddOns to Interface\AddOns\nUI\Plugins to make it compatible
with the WoWInterface.com installer (WOWI) -- note, after installing this update you
can and should delete the directory Interace\AddOns\nUI\AddOns if it exists

* Added cooldown counters to the in-HUD DK rune bar

* Changed layering in DK runes in order to clean up border overlapping

* Changed the location of the in-HUD global cooldown indicator slighty to improve cast
bar visibility and to eliminate overlap with the DK rune bar

* Increased the size of the DK runes in the HUD slightly to match the size of the
casting bar (which is where they are located) and improve visibility

* Recoded nUI_UnitCasting update logic to improve casting bar performance and
smoothness of rendering

* Modified the HUD logic to make the player casting bar visible even when the HUD is
faded -- the casting bar is now visible any time a player spell is being cast: while
casting, channeling, hearthing, crafting, mounting, etc.

* Modified latency tracking method to improve performance

* Modified the HUD transparency logic so that targeting a dead mob (or a ghost) uses
the lower regen alpha level as the maximum alpha rather than the higher targeting
alpha level... makes the HUD less obtrusive when skinning, looting, rez'ing, etc

* Added the unusable action button color to the list of configurable colors

* Tweaked color settings for action buttons that are out of range, out of mana (power)
and unusable

* Changed the parenting of unit frame tooltips so the tooltip always anchors to the
base of the unit frame rather than the individual elements of the unit frame. This
makes the tooltip have a single anchor point while the mouse is inside the unit
frame rather than moving as the mouse enters and leaves the elements of the frame.

* Fixed a logic error in nUI_UnitPortrait that caused portraits not to update when
the portrait changed after the first time the unit was viewed

* Fixed a logic error in nUI_UnitPortrait that caused the portraits to ignore changes
in the enabled state of animation ( /nui anim ) after the initial login

* Fixed a logic error in the player and target solo unit frames that causes them to
be clickable and mouseover active in the player pet and ToT regions of the unit panel

* Fixed a logic error in all unit frames that caused the feedback zone of the frame
to be unclickable (typically the empty space in the unit frame)

* Fixed a logic error in nUI_UnitAura that caused (de)buff icons to be mouse active
even when otherwise hidden which interfered with unit frame clicking and world frame
mouse interaction.

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Known Issues in nUI...
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-- WotLK issues still outstanding

* When using the mounts that can carry vendors, the dismount button is not being displayed
in nUI (note: until this gets fix, you can right-click the aura to dismount)

-- generic issues outstanding

* If you remove a fubar top panel, the nUI top panel redraws to the middle of the screen.
It is full width and takes up about 20% of the middle of the field of view vertically.

* Enabling the "Use UI Scale" option in the Bliz video configuration menu blows up
nUI's layout and scaling. For now... just uncheck this option until I can fix it.

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Known compatibility issues with third party mods...
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* Guild Event Manager is moving its minimap button back to the minimap out of the button
bag whenever the player clicks on it. A minute or so later, nUI's button bag logic
will see the button moved and return it to the button bag.

* Carbonite is having issues updating the directional arrow when the minimap and/or
battlefield minimap is hidden in the info panel

* Poison Pouch mod minimap button is missed by button bag

* Alpha Map minimap button is not scaling correctly in button bag

* nUI and Capping are not playing well... Capping's modification of the battlefield
minimap is interfering with nUI's info panel management of the map

* Titan Panel is causing an error when the bottom bar is enabled

* Titan panel mouseover tooltips are not compatible with nUI's fixed position
tooltip option

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Known Bliz / nUI compatibility issues...
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* Right clicking a unit frame and selecting "set focus" taints in combat == this is
a known bug since WoW 3.0.2 and is beyond nUI's control. Hopefully Bliz will address
it in the next patch (or two or three or twenty). You can target the desired focus
and then type '/focus' to aquire a focus frame until Bliz resolves this issue.

* Switching between windowed and non-windowed mode breaks nUI's textures and HUD -- this
is caused by a known Bliz bug in their video driver code and applies only to certain
graphics cards and video drivers. It is nearly random in terms of which mods it will
impact... anything from very complex to completely trivial mods are broken by this
bug but it is always mods that use custom textures. There is no fix. The only
workaround is to (a) avoid switching between windowed and non-windowed modes as much
as possible and use '/nui rl' to reload the user interface when it gets broken. It is
worth noting this bug affects Macs most often, but also impacts some PCs (such as
mine). This bug has been a round a very long time and no telling if or when it will
ever be fixed.

* If your mouse buttons 4 and 5 do not work for click-casting on unit frames, make
sure your mouse driver is sending mouse button clicks and not key presses. You can
do this by going to the key binding interface and trying to bind autorun to mouse
button 4. If the key binding does not say "Button 4" or "Mouse Button 4" then the
issue is your mouse driver or driver settings. Bliz does not support key-presses
as mouse clicks directly and mods like Clique cannot detect key presses in that way.

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To-Do List / Planned features
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* The 15, 20, 25 and 40 man raid panels are not in the pre-release... both because I am
not quite satisfied with them and, again, I'm trying to not have to fix everything at
once... make sure the core stuff is all working, then add the bells and whistles if
you understand.

* Add vehicle frame/mode integration to the dashboard

* Death Knights need a timer for their pet expiration... should also have a ghoul timer

* Add Threat Bar back

* Add sorting of raid unit frames by raid group and class

* Add font size options for Chat and Combat log frames

* Add totem timers

* Add audio cues for cooldowns, cc breaks, etc.

* Add DruidManaBar type functionality to unit frames

* Add 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 unit frame panels for arena play

* Add Proximo functionality to unit frames for arena unit panels

* Add durability, wardrobe manager, ammo tracker and gold tracker to console buttons

* Add autobar style support for quest items, food/drink/pots, mounts, vanity pets

* Add option to set location precision to zero decimal places on coordinate display

* Add target marking tool a la LuckyCharms

* Add recommended zone functionality to the location box a la FuBar RecZone

* Add a swing timer

neuralassassin · 01-11-09, 06:42 PM

hey scott as far as the pitch for the vehicle controls go
I believe you can use the right mouse button to change your pitch rather than the bliz buttons
and the vehicle seats while i have not done one yet are default keybinds(i believe 1,3,5 from the number pad correspond to previous seat next seat and exit vehicle)

SirWilliam92 · 01-11-09, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by iljott

There also might be another quest which I recall near Venomspite in Dragonblight. The quest is called "Spread the Good Word" and is given to you by Chief Plaguebringer Middleton (found at 77.7, 62.7). It's a lvl 72 quest which can be obtained at lvl 71. I cannot remember 100% if you could control the pitch of the vehicle as it's been a while since I've done it, but if I'm not mistaken you do control them.

You most certainly do control the pitch of the plague, catapult, thingo... You can do so using the normal pitch up/pitch down keys (insert/delete and crtl+mousewheel), or by right clicking and moving the view upwards (which moves the frame upwards and therefore gets awkward cause you can't see whats in front of you)

neuralassassin · 01-11-09, 08:23 PM

-kodewolf one thing I noticed about the gui is when you change the minimap map management option with slash commands it forces a reload when doing it with the gui the infamous error: action failed because of an addon message appears
obviously a reload solves it just thought Id let you know

Wavebow · 01-12-09, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Wavebow and Trashi --

To be clear, you both have food in your bags that your pet will eat and you are clicking on the pet feeder button when you are not in combat right?

When you click on the button, you do not get a pet feeder window at all, or you get an empty window?

Are you getting any error messages of any kind when you click on the pet happiness icon, or does virtually nothing happen?

Wavebow... you didn't answer the question about US realm or Oceanic realm... if you are both on Oceanic, there may be an issue there I need to look into.

I am playing on the EU Server Alleria, sorry.
I have eatable foot in the bag. I use Fizzwidget Feed-O-Matic for feeding my pet at the moment. When i click on the icon no window will open. Virtually nothing happens.

spiel2001 · 01-12-09, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Wavebow

I am playing on the EU Server Alleria, sorry.
I have eatable foot in the bag. I use Fizzwidget Feed-O-Matic for feeding my pet at the moment. When i click on the icon no window will open. Virtually nothing happens.

Wavebow -- are you playing in German as well?

Splitail · 01-12-09, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Quote:
3) I've gotten quite accustomed to Quartz, Elkano's BuffBars, and Grid for various reasons, and I like the customizability those offer me. Is it / will it be possible to disable the portions of your UI that control the buffs, the raid frames, and the cast bar?

Meh... yes and no. With the new unit frames, you can tell them not to include buffs/debuffs, that casting bar, etc. They are 100% skinnable. But, and this is a big but, I don't condone the disabling of key integrated features like that so you can use a random third party mod to do that. That kind of defeats the entire point of nUI.

Rather, I would argue that either you don't want to use the nUI feature simply because it's different and you're resisting change or because there's some particular functionality in the other mod that isn't present in nUI. There's nothing I can do about being resistant to change, but if it's a missing feature, I would rather know there's a need for it and add it.

I just downloaded nUI after seeing it on a SS from my guild forum. I am a self professed modwhore, and anything that organizes my mess into something resembling a proper UI is fabulous.

After using nUI in OS25 last night, I noticed that the buffs/debuffs are taking over a majority of my screen! Tenebron had so many debuffs on him that it took up the whole right side of my screen. My own buffs took over the left side, lol! I did a search for the possibility of turning off the buff/debuff icons, because I dearly want to just use Elkano's Buffbars. I found this post (above) but did not see a way to actually disable to icons so I don't see them

Then I saw something about movers, can this option be used to drag around WHERE the buffs are displaying? I also need to adjust the padding between the debuff icons because they are spread out with what looks like .25" between icons.

I really like the way I can customize Elkanos buffbars and place them (drag and drop) where I want. And honestly this is my only beef with nUI so far, is that I hate the buff/debuff icons.

Thanks for giving this modjunkie a great way to get her fix

Wavebow · 01-12-09, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by spiel2001

Wavebow -- are you playing in German as well?

Yes, I am from germany.