Michael Jackson Dies

[Petrah]

This is not a joke, it's on CNN. I just turned on the news and there it was.... I dunno what happened yet.

[Nedlinin]

Originally Posted by Silenia This is not a joke, it's on CNN. I just turned on the news and there it was.... I dunno what happened yet.

Died from a heartattack

[tinyu]

i was just watching the TV and they said hes suffered a cardiac arrest and its not yet known if hes dead or not.

[voodoodad]

All the major new sites are saying he is indeed dead. I honestly don't know exactly how to feel about this. He was obviously one of the most talented singer/songwriters of the past 35 years or so, and yet he has lived such a bizarre life in those same years... Does his lifestyle (possible illegalities included) negate his talent? I don't really think so, but at the same time a lot of the stuff he was reported to have done just sounded so wrong.

[aceman67]

How about some real news: Farrah Fawcett died too. She did a lot of charity work after her acting career ended, and its just wrong that as soon as Wacko Jacko died, they stopped all news reporting of ANY kind on CNN to cover the death of a Child Molester Super Star.

[Ross]

Not to be jumpin in but he was kinda on topic, He just feels different then some people heck I be lying if that didn't pop in my head.

But yea it was cardiac Arrest.

[Petrah]

Originally Posted by Ross Not to be jumpin in but he was kinda on topic, He just feels different then some people heck I be lying if that didn't pop in my head. But yea it was cardiac Arrest.

He's dead. His family is grieving along with a lot of fans. People need to be respectful of that. For all you know, I could very well agree with Shyce but that's besides the point. His post was cruel and off topic.

[Gimbli]

How about a person died, meaning a life ended. If you don't care for the person who died, and don't necessarily have the best "attitude" towards them, you keep your mouth shut out of the sheer respect that they died.

Yea, it stinks a little that Farrah died as well, although it was widely known she was dealing with cancer. Michael was kinda, out of the blue. Today's generation simply regards him for all the negative things in the press/media/etc., and don't care to respect the groundwork he laid for music well before their time.

I'm not a personal "huge" fan of him, but I absolutely respect what he did for music, and his talent. R.I.P.

[tinyu]

remember him for his music, my favorite MJ song is They dont care about us

[us2006027321]

Originally Posted by Gimbli I'm not a personal "huge" fan of him, but I absolutely respect what he did for music, and his talent. R.I.P.

Originally Posted by Zaydok Honestly, MJ was one of the most talented singers/songwriters of the last few decades as stated above. However, I do believe the allegations made against him to be at least in part true.

Many people have little idea how many of the advances in medicine that we enjoy today can be attributed to groundwork laid by Dr. Mengele. (As he is a more obscure historical icon, I have included a link to a Wiki page.) Most people only remember him as a vicious sadist. There are many who also have little idea or only remember light-heartedly that Winston Churchill was a raging drunk even though he was an extremely brilliant leader with an equally brilliant mind. (I like World War II. Get off me. It was one of the most turbulent times of the last century, and much can be understood from it in terms of where our society is headed.)

While it is true that Michael Jackson's life was not above reproach, it is worth equal note that he was a talented pioneer of the musical world. Unless we knew him personally, we have very little proof that he committed a crime. I am not absolving him of his apparently high potential for guilt; I am simply saying that as I have no proof being offered to me other than that which is presented by the American media ('nuff said?), I can't rationally draw a conclusion about his guilt. Even if I could, I couldn't begin to allow that to be a reason to judge him worthy of death.

It is not humane to wish death on another human being or say they are worthy of it. If the iconic figure of God doesn't so much as deign to judge a man until he is dead, who are we to judge a man at all?

As Michael Jackson was an influencial individual, he will be missed, and his untimely death will send ripples through the waters of history. He will not be soon forgotten.

Now that I have been appropriately respectful, I feel I must share a bit of tongue-in-cheek sacrilege with all of you. According to eBaum's World, as Michael Jackson was 99% plastic, he is going to be melted into legos so that children may play with him for a change.

[Yhor]

Originally Posted by Silenia Stay on topic, or don't post.

*hugs*

But with the topic being what it is, did you really not expect that?

I also do not have anything nice to say about him (he influenced the purchase of 4 pairs of parachute pants when I was around 12 yrs old, that is when things started going bad").

*sympathy for his family*

[Zaydok]

Originally Posted by Silenia Stay on topic, or don't post.

Well technically they are on topic, "Michael Jackson Dies" is the title of this thread, that is their response to his death. It might not be what you would have put, but still they are entitle to their opinion.

Honestly, MJ was one of the most talented singers/songwriters of the last few decades as stated above. However, I do believe the allegations made against him to be at least in part true. In life we are all talented at different things, but that talent does not give us free reign to do whatever we want. And even after accomplishing many great things it is possible to negate all of them through actions later on in life. I think MJ is the classic tale of an abused child becoming the abuser. It is sad, but it is very much a reality in this world.

With that said, I don't wish death on anyone however, but obviously it was his time to go. His work up to the early 90s will still be music that I consider to be good and will listen to. I wasn't much for his newer stuff.

[Petrah]

I'm not going to sit here and debate on it. It's off topic, period.

I'm done with this thread... have fun derailing it.

[Republic]

He who doesn't respect his own life cannot value that of others. I'm not surprised there are idiots happy with his death, or at least willing to say something that amounts to nothing more than "being an ass for the sake of being an ass".

That said, I think MJ was as bizarre as they come. Many great people were similar in that regard. I personally think the man was surrounded by vultures who did nothing more than try to figure ways of setting him up so they could get paid. I don't believe the molestation charges (you do realize he was acquitted) were genuine. I think the man, through his dysfunction, put himself in unwise circumstances.

Not a damned person reading this forum has any inside information that would prove MJ's guilt in any charges brought forth. Why is it that people can accept bad things like the molestation charges on a leap of faith but cannot accept positive things in similar fashion? Think about that a while. Why don't you guys consider the fact that maybe, just maybe, he was innocent and set up for that crap? Or, well, I guess you are more knowledgeable than the jury who deliberated and exonerated him of all charges. Yeah, right. The man was found to be innocent by a jury of his peers and the American legal system. In a case with the spotlight Michael's received, they wouldn't screw that up.

At the very least, post mature responses. If you need to pile on in time of someone's grief, you may have a larger problem than you realize.

R.I.P. Michael, you were a great one.

[voodoodad]

If it's this bad here, I can't imagine what trade chat looks like right now.