Learning oUF and how to code a UI (moved from UI Feedback thread)

Lily.Petal · 04-29-11, 05:43 PM

/cry; I hate and love reflux. Deleted my profile yet again. I always save it again before I log, but some times when I switch to a new profile, then switch back, it removes all of my Stuf settings z.z It makes me soooo frustrated...

I guess I'm gonna go back to my Aurora Theme again and see what I can improve /sigh;

Sometimes I wish Stuf just had a profile setting in it xD

Also, speaking of profiles, anyone know a way to remove all the other profiles from addons without going into each one and deleting it manually?

Maybe this is a sign saying START USING OUF. <has my knife already in hand>\

EDIT: Lol and behold, OUF just updated the moment I posted~ Anyone have any idea what layout might be easier to into and use/change and learn? :P

Aftermathhqt · 04-29-11, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Lily.Petal

/cry; I hate and love reflux. Deleted my profile yet again. I always save it again before I log, but some times when I switch to a new profile, then switch back, it removes all of my Stuf settings z.z It makes me soooo frustrated...

I guess I'm gonna go back to my Aurora Theme again and see what I can improve /sigh;

Sometimes I wish Stuf just had a profile setting in it xD

Also, speaking of profiles, anyone know a way to remove all the other profiles from addons without going into each one and deleting it manually?

Maybe this is a sign saying START USING OUF. <has my knife already in hand>\

EDIT: Lol and behold, OUF just updated the moment I posted~ Anyone have any idea what layout might be easier to into and use/change and learn? :P

This one of the reasons i started to do everything in pure LUA. These profiles always reset, at some point, then your just wanna die

oUF layout is win. i love it.

Dawn · 04-29-11, 08:21 PM

Most people using oUF had zero lua knowledge when they started using it. Myself included. Just crap a layout and let the hacking begin! The oUF forums are full of answers already (search ftw) and you can get help for new or special problems quite fast.

Monolit · 04-30-11, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dawn

Just crap a layout and let the hacking begin!

sounds about right though

Aftermathhqt · 04-30-11, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dawn

Most people using oUF had zero lua knowledge when they started using it. Myself included. Just crap a layout and let the hacking begin! The oUF forums are full of answers already (search ftw) and you can get help for new or special problems quite fast.

Totally agreed! you get so much help, so don't be afraid to ask anything

Nibelheim · 04-30-11, 04:01 AM

Bah, asking is for people who.. lack... infostuff!

Nevermind me, I have askaphobia

Lily.Petal · 04-30-11, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Kendian

Just wanted to say my thanks, lady,

ChatFrame1:SetShadowColor(0, 0, 0, 0) -- 4th arg is alpha
ChatFrame1:SetShadowOffset(0, 0) -- x, y
-- [[ ChatFrame1:SetSpacing(3) --(optional, changes the vertical spacing on your lines) ]]

Worked like a charm, and it made such a HUGE diff, lol~

Welcome~ and ya it does xD

Originally Posted by red8981

my version of your Layout =p

oh my

<3

Originally Posted by Kendian

Actually I have an 'addon alt' lol. STUF lets you copy to next character, so I just make sure to copy layout to alt, then go back to whichever toon Im working on. That way if layout gets wiped, I just copy from alt~

Burn you. D: good idea

Originally Posted by Game92

This one of the reasons i started to do everything in pure LUA. These profiles always reset, at some point, then your just wanna die

oUF layout is win. i love it.

Gonna try it today, wish me luck!

Originally Posted by Greevir

Aww! That sucks! Really love what you had going. Here's my copy of yours: (yes I still use a 4:3 ratio monitor /cry)
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Completely understand the Stuf profile thing. Really wish it had profiles. Would love to learn oUF but have absolutely 0 lua knowledge.

Didn't realize the layout was actually popular.

Originally Posted by Dawn

Most people using oUF had zero lua knowledge when they started using it. Myself included. Just crap a layout and let the hacking begin! The oUF forums are full of answers already (search ftw) and you can get help for new or special problems quite fast.

Will add the forums to my favorite list ;D

Wish me luck, sorry for all of those hoping for a upload of the UI. I might try something with oUF once I get it under my thumb.

Anyone have a clue how to edit oUF without all the /reloads though?

Dawn · 04-30-11, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Lily.Petal

Anyone have a clue how to edit oUF without all the /reloads though?

You won't see changes unless you reload, you will have to live with it. The more you get used to it, the less you will have to reload. You will know how it will look like and you can "drycode" more at once.

Some tips to make it easier:
- make yourself a macro for reload and keybind it
- don't load other addons, except for your layout + oUF + the plugins you want to support > makes reloading faster

Aprikot · 04-30-11, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Lily.Petal

Anyone have any idea what layout might be easier to into and use/change and learn?

Freebaser's oUF_Freeb is a relatively easy first edit imo, and might lend itself nicely to the frame designs you've already created. Dawn's oUF_Slim is another good one...some cool features to study (like bar alpha w/fill on loss).

Originally Posted by Dawn

You won't see changes unless you reload, you will have to live with it. The more you get used to it, the less you will have to reload. You will know how it will look like and you can "drycode" more at once.

This is very true, especially sizes, positions, and anchors (relative positioning frame-to-frame via anchoring can be pure win

).

You'll start to see the screen in X's & Y's before long.

Lily.Petal · 04-30-11, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Aprikot

Freebaser's oUF_Freeb is a relatively easy first edit imo, and might lend itself nicely to the frame designs you've already created. Dawn's oUF_Slim is another good one...some cool features to study (like bar alpha w/fill on loss).

I may not be a pro at coding/programming at all, but I can at least look at code and understand what it does to an extent, then change it to what I need. But changing a frame completely dependent on a different frame is a different matter and only meant to make the Author's, not the 'hacker's', life easier.

Especially when said frame is something along the lines of:
height*-(hpheight-.95) -- Taken from FreeB

Which from a glance (from my PoV) is meant to change the frame incase the independent frame is changed so that dependent frame changes along with it so he didn't have to go change every little thing.

But to me, I just groan 'cause I have no idea what I will mess up if I change it to just a straight number.

Wish there was a layout that let me change every variable in the LUA relatively easily instead of trying to hack one and figuring what the heck is being multiplied/subtracted/added etc etc xD
Say at the top, all the Frames Variables are there so you can change what you want for the new people trying to get into oUF, then all the main script loading (or w/e you call it, hooking?) those variables.

I was going to try oUF_Simple, because it's the closest to what I meant, but it's not showing anything when I loaded it. Boo.

While I want to use oUF, trying to get into it seems so taxing at the user using it and may take a long time to learn properly, years seeing as how most of you were doing this in TBC (looking at the old Screenshot thread) and such. I am probably just going to take a programming course this semester in college, then try again and hope for the best and use oUF as a learning tool.

EDIT: Also, is there ANY way to get rid of the BlizzardUI folders in the ...AddOns\\ folder? Or in someway shorten them? Really really ugly :P

Lily.Petal · 05-07-11, 10:31 AM

Just remembered why I sometimes hate amazon z.z /sigh; one of the books I ordered was some book about border terriers? I kinda laughed too because it said INSPECTED on the receipt. I'm like wut? The book was only 0.46c though, but still irks me >.>

zynix · 05-10-11, 05:38 AM

Lily, about LitePanels vs KG Panels:

I started using LitePanels back in the days when KG Panels was a newborn, and EePanels2 was the old veteran. I tried EePanels, but never really got to do anything with it, because of the GUI. Therefore I moved on to LitePanels which was very easy, and it gives a good understanding of what you can do, at least when you start to fiddle with scripts.

I've (almost) always used LitePanels, and probably always will, at least untill I get my own panels to work!

A little help with beginning working with LitePanels

Happy coding

Aprikot · 05-10-11, 07:06 AM

Shestak UI has a nice & easy to follow LitePanels layout...lots of 1px stuff.

I think it's back on WoWI...also @ shestak.org.

Why is so much good stuff from Russia btw (+Europe in general)?

/discuss

zynix · 05-10-11, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Aprikot

Shestak UI has a nice & easy to follow LitePanels layout...lots of 1px stuff.

I think it's back on WoWI...also @ shestak.org.

Why is so much good stuff from Russia btw (+Europe in general)?

/discuss

Because I live there?

Seriously, maybe because we have a lot of diffirent cultures and religions?

Aprikot · 05-10-11, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by zynix

Because I live there?

Nice, I'll go with that.

I've had the experience many times of following a trail which ultimately leads to a message board with a lot of сладкий символов.

Maybe I should learn the language.

haylie · 05-10-11, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by zynix

I started using LitePanels back in the days when KG Panels was a newborn, and EePanels2 was the old veteran.

Huh? As far as I remember, kgPanels was far from being a newborn when LitePanels came out, and no one used eePanels2 anymore. I had used kgPanels a LONG time before LitePanels, decided I didn't like it, abandoned the idea of panels altogether and got back into them when LitePanels came out because it was so easy to use.

Originally Posted by Aprikot

Why is so much good stuff from Russia btw (+Europe in general)

You should see what UIs the Chinese make. Not necessarily better, just... well, you have to see it.

red8981 · 05-10-11, 03:01 PM

any link to chinese UIs?
I am chinese, and all I see in Chinese wow forum is UI from here >.<

**Seerah** · 05-10-11, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by haylie

Huh? As far as I remember, kgPanels was far from being a newborn when LitePanels came out, and no one used eePanels2 anymore. I had used kgPanels a LONG time before LitePanels, decided I didn't like it, abandoned the idea of panels altogether and got back into them when LitePanels came out because it was so easy to use.

Tons of people didn't realize for a long while that eePanels was discontinued and that kgPanels was its successor. Patch after patch, people asked for updates to eePanels.

zynix · 05-11-11, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by haylie

Huh? As far as I remember, kgPanels was far from being a newborn when LitePanels came out, and no one used eePanels2 anymore. I had used kgPanels a LONG time before LitePanels, decided I didn't like it, abandoned the idea of panels altogether and got back into them when LitePanels came out because it was so easy to use.

I started using LitePanels, after eePanels2 was discontinued, and KG Panels were out, maybe I should have made it more clear. I think it was at the middle of BC, and I tried KG Panels, and couldn't get it to work, like eePanels2, so I switched to LitePanels, and I loved it at first sight.