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05-22-07, 09:55 PM   #1
Mortlach
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MacAceUpdater and findings

I'm examining this now, but there is a Mac Ace Updater found at http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/

I'll post findings as I go thru my update procedure... and design my update procedure.

Folks, be patient. If this were 10 addons, it'd be minor, but Mazzle is an integrated whole.
Give Mazzle and his beta team time!

"Meanwhilst, ye all goo an' enjoy real life!" - Mortie
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05-23-07, 12:49 AM   #2
Xenophanes
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I just used MacAceUpdater to update a fresh Mazzle install after 2.1 (kept my existing WTF folder so I wouldn't have to reconfigure everything).

I also updated to the newest versions of KTM, BigWigs, and SWStats (make sure to update your Fubar_KTM too!).

I'm getting 0 errors, and it works like a charm.
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05-24-07, 05:40 PM   #3
Mortlach
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Exclamation HOW TO: Make MazzleUI work on Mac (WoW 2.1)

Here's the process that worked for me on two Macs, Intel and G5.
(PC users, if you're reading this, use WoWAceUpdater or the java-based tool to update.)

Updating Ace Addons
- Get MacAceUpdater

- Back up your Addons folder
(One can start with a blank AddOns folder, but that wasn't needful for me.)

Using MacAceUpdater
- Install !!!StandAloneLibs only.
- Click Refresh List.
- Click Select Outdated Plugins (another term for AddOns).
- Install Selected PlugIns
I also installed SharedMedia and SharedMediaLib, in case of future dependancies. (These will be replacing Surfaces & SurfaceLib and they may be required soon. Do keep the Surface duo around whilst we wait for more updates.)
Note that TinyTip Extras reports an incorrect version, even after a manual update of it. This seems to be a cosmetic/reporting error. (I'll tell the author....)

You've now updated MazzleUI! All should be well, as it was on my wife's iMac G5.

Crashing?
However, some folks (often Intel-based users) seem to have WoW crash out after the character loading bar is full. Bongos Action Bar, a required support AddOn for Bongos, is the apparent trigger; it is not the proximate cause.

Thanks to Mazzle and Exceltica, this fix has allowed me to load and Mazzify all my chars.

The Mazzle/Exceltica Fix
- Open Interface/AddOns/Mazzifier/Mazzifier_Buttons.lua.
Around line 58, in the CompressBar() function, there is a line:
local shouldAdd = false

- Change that "false" to "true" and save the file.
local shouldAdd = true

(Mac users should use BBEdit or the free TextWrangler to open and save this file so the differences in PC/Mac line ending characters are preserved.)

(Note that one familiar with coding could simply comment out this entire function, per Mazzle. Since not everyone uses a tool that allows mass commenting out of a function, this inefficient fix still solves the problem for now and is easy for non-coders to apply.)

That's almost it.

Removing Bongos_ActionBar.lua from character's SavedVariables folders
You probably have old Bongos_ActionBar.lua files in each of your character folders. These must be deleted. Don't worry, they'll be remade properly for this temp fix.
The normal path on a Mac is
/<yourHardDrive>/Applications/<yourWoWFolder>/WTF/Account/<yourWoWAccountName>/<yourServer>/<individualCharFolders>/SavedVariables/Bongos_ActionBar.lua
(PC users, the path will be nearly identical if you wish to try this. Follow it logically thru....)

After deleting them, login and Mazzify each character from scratch.

If you wish to update other non-Ace AddOns, as I did, hunt, gather and sauté! Remember that any grossly updated AddOn may not Mazzify properly due to changes in the updated AddOn. Your Mileage May Vary.....

Mazzle is undoubtedly hard at work, hopefully at real life first and his compilation second. Be patient -- this dwarf has learned that all good things come in time to those... who wait for gnomes.

P.S. The bugsack reporting sound will be the original annoying one "fatality!". If it drives you crazy, you can change the sound played.

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05-24-07, 07:37 PM   #4
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I don't know about the Bongos2 part. I don't really think I would suggest that, though you clearly seem to have some problem on one of your machines. That's a huge departure that I don't think is warranted as a general suggestion. It seems like quite a few Mac people are posting that don't have those same problems.
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05-24-07, 08:02 PM   #5
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Psst, see post 3, edited 1 June 07

Post 3 in this thread is a current HOW TO for making MazzleUI work on crashing Macs.

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05-24-07, 10:21 PM   #6
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Just want to confirm the crash on my Mac, after following the instructions above.

Updated all the Ace plugins via macaceupdater, as well as added SharedMedia and SharedMedialib

WoW crashed upon loading.

When I disabled Bongos, Bongos Action Bar, and Bongos Options, Mazzle loaded just fine.

Also loaded fine with Bongos2.

I am using an iMac G5 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

Hope this helps, and thanks for an awesome product!!!

Edit: Looking at the configuration of the Bongos2 buttons, even though they're not laid out on the bottom panels, they are still in the same configuration/layout as the way Mazzle configures them. Just had to move em down, reduce the number of columns, and re-do the key bindings (not hard at all!).

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05-25-07, 11:51 AM   #7
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Count my MacBook Pro 15" Intel CoreDuo in as same. Everything works fine if I disable the bongos addons. works fine if I install Bongos2 and reconfig the bongos2.

*** HOWEVER *** Mazzle did nicely tell me in separate thread here that my conclusion that mazzle_bongos is the problem is wrong and that most likely it is a corruption of the bongos config file. So we should keep that in mind. The little gnome with pink hair has proven to be right on more occasions that I have !! = )

Not sure which is going to be more fun this weekend, playing WoW or tinkering with the code!!



Originally Posted by Mortlach
I agree and hopefully some Intel Mac users, esp on the 17" MBP (CoreDuo here), will post if they've had success and what differences in update methods they used.

(Edited post to make Bongos to Bongos2 an optional fix IF Bongos is crashing WoW.)

Intel Mac crash confirmation count
As of 25 May, we have 2 Intel Mac crash confirmations, focused on Bongos.


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05-24-07, 10:59 PM   #8
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For some reason for only my shammie and my lock I crash. I disables Bongos and that stopped it from crashing. I installed Bongos2 and it works fine.

I really do not understand enough about the mod to know why it would only crash on the two toons and not the other charc I have.
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05-30-07, 03:42 PM   #9
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Smile Mazzle bugs since patch 2.1

Mazzle,

Have a few questions with the ui. Since the release of the patch (2.1). Mazzle ui has been not working properly. I have tried removing the wtf and interface and reinstalling the ui i was unsuccessful can you please help me out. Right now most of the bugs are in the autobar.

Thanks
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05-30-07, 05:36 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Ruthless_One
Mazzle,

Have a few questions with the ui. Since the release of the patch (2.1). Mazzle ui has been not working properly. I have tried removing the wtf and interface and reinstalling the ui i was unsuccessful can you please help me out. Right now most of the bugs are in the autobar.

Thanks
I have not released the new version yet. Until then, there are many suggestions and walk-throughs made by users on how to update add-ons for 2.1. You're in one of the threads about it right now. Try reading them and following the instructions they give.
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